Hello Mark,
Thanks for posting those pictures
In both examples the drums are clearly Star made drums
one wood one steel ..in each case
the grommets are what one would normally find on a Star drum
Take a look at my pictures
and then study the pictures of John's drum below
In both cases the grommet used is identical
My own thinking now is that
sometime after Star's withdrawal from the stencil drum market
Pearl or a distributor working with Pearl made product
to fulfill a still ongoing demand by whomever for Majestic labeled drums
Somehow got hold of some surplus Star made older style (metal not foil)badges
and gave this same "whomever" what they had ordered up
Placing them on what we can all see is a somewhat higher end Pearl made snare drum
Keep the input coming fellas
Wow Kenwood - good pic retrieval! I looked and looked and eventually gave up....was looking on my computer for a pic of my snare CLEANED AND POLISHED! Couldn't find it, but absolutely sure I have it on here somewhere!
Meanwhile - playing an identical snare (with no badge) with my Whitehall.
Hello John
The reality of my pic retrieval was that I got lucky and sort of stumbled on to them
But thanks just the same buddy
Hey John your Whitehall kit is sweet and as for the snare with no badge
Just think with respect to our subject,
it is much more a Whitehall relation than it is a Majestic
If you lack the tiger eye snare slap a Whitehall badge on that lost orphan
In my on line meanderings yesterday I found a snare
same identical drum save for being drilled for only eight lugs
It had a tin "Astro" badge on it
I have a 14in Tiger Eye tom....will be cutting it down and converting to a matching snare. Only a 6 lug though. Not sure if I will keep it at 6 or double it to a 12.
Can't find it right now but this question/issue came up in another thread & Ralf got into the discussion. If I recall correctly he believed that Star made it & I disagreed. I believe that the American retailer had legal right to use the badge on anything & separately outsourced the snare to Pearl & supplied them with the badges or specs/design/blueprints of the badge. Or the retailer could have installed all the badges at the store himself? Not sure how it all went down but I stand firm that Pearl made that snare.
I too believe that my friend, John is correct. A study of the hardware could lead to no other conclusion. True, that lines were often blurred back in the day, but, In my opinion, this is a Pearl made drum.
Brian
Hello,
I guess Drummerjohn33 nails it down:
... I believe that the American retailer had legal right to use the badge on anything & separately outsourced the snare to Pearl & supplied them with the badges or specs/design/blueprints of the badge. Or the retailer could have installed all the badges at the store himself? Not sure how it all went down but I stand firm that Pearl made that snare.
I'm 100 % sure that the drumsets on my website with Majestic badges are Star made ones.
And I'm 100 % sure that the snare drum on this post is NOT a Star made one.
I think I have to make a correction to my website: the Majestic brand had some Star drums, yes, but whoever owned these badges was not dedicated to Star only, but to Pearl, too (later or earlier - who knows?).
Cheers, Ralf
Hello,I guess Drummerjohn33 nails it down:I'm 100 % sure that the drumsets on my website with Majestic badges are Star made ones.And I'm 100 % sure that the snare drum on this post is NOT a Star made one.I think I have to make a correction to my website: the Majestic brand had some Star drums, yes, but whoever owned these badges was not dedicated to Star only, but to Pearl, too (later or earlier - who knows?).Cheers, Ralf
The badge in question is the Majestic Deluxe. I have never seen this badge on the thin shells with re-rings. It has always shown up with the thicker shells. Therefore it is safe to say that this badge was also used on some Pearl made drums later in the run - 1968 and on.
