You may have to go with a tube lug. But, nothing wrong with a good Acro, either....

Welcome to the forums. If you can't find help or the answer here, then it doesn't exist.

As far as the Gretsch COB shells go, they are awesome. The 10 luggers are great drums and very heavy when complete with cast hoops.

I noticed they sound a lot better as a listener and not the player. The overtones that are heard while playing are very faint when listening in the audience.

Word of advice, when you start with a bare shell and you have to purchase all of the parts, it's going to cost you a lot.

Shell: $60 - $80 (used)

Lightning throw-off: $80 - $100 (used)

Fishtail strainer: $60 - $80 (used)

Lugs x 10: $80 - $100 (used)

Cast hoops (top & bottom): $80 - $100

Heads: $20 - $30

At the minimum you would have over $380. The only reason I bring this up is because I asked a similar question. I would keep an eye open for a complete or partial drum, if you don't have any of the parts.

I waited and eventually a 4165 (10 lug) Stop Sign Badge popped up on "the bay". I lost the bid, but the high bidder backed out and the seller gave me a Second Chance Offer for my highest bid. The drum is not pitted, but does have typical blemishes/scratches. It cleaned up great.

Good luck with your decision and project.

- Tim

I can't even find the tube lugs in those dimensions??? Also, I am interested in the final product, but more interested in the journey if you know what I mean.

ablemusic: since you're a Gretschie and I'm a Ludwig lover, you might want to take this off my hands instead.

I've got a vintage 1980's Gretsch USA 6.5" X 14" Maple Natural Lacquer snare drum (the model made famous by Tony Williams but not yellow). Traditional 6-ply shell with silver interior, factory label model #4155, serial #22622. Famed Jasper era shell, 10 lugs top and bottom, die-cast hoops, Lightning strainer and fish tail butt.

One of Gretsch's few vintage snare drums to incorporate 10 lugs per side. With all original hardware, original Lightning throwoff and adjustable fishtail butt, original badge in excellent shape, and original tag on the inside of the Jasper shell this snare, in great condition. The lugs have very minimal marks, the throwoff and butt all function perfectly and are very clean. The Jasper shell is in very nice condition with clear maple exterior and clean silver sealer interior, a few scuffs by strainer. Original Gretsch serial number tag is still affixed to the inside and very legible. $400 will take it off my hands so that I can get another Ludwig snare. These don't show up very often on eBay either….only reason I have it because it came in on a trade.