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LM 400 vs. 402

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Why is the deeper Ludwig 6.5 x 14 Supra so much more desirable than the 5" Supra? Sure I would like one if I had a spare $400. But really, is it that much better sounding than the famous svelt 5" version?

When they call the Supra the most recorded snare out there, are they talking about the 5" or the 6.5?

Personally, I think the 5" sounds better more "In tune" and crisper sounding. As opposed to the 6.5 that sounds flat IMO.

All the pros seem to use the deeper snares. Why is this?

I think 5" snares sound great on stage or in the studio.

What do you think?

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Posted on 11 years ago
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Around 15 or so years ago,the 402 wasn't as nearly popular till drummers found out the a certain deceased British drummer used one.

You used to be able to pick up an early 70's B/O badge drum in good condition for a little around 200 bucks.Not so now.

There are also a lot more 400 supras out there because they came as standard snare sold with most Ludwig drum sets,and were also offered as a stand alone snare kit.

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Posted on 11 years ago
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Keep in mind, it's just my opinion.......I own a 1979 absolutely mint condition 402 Supra. First off, good luck finding one for $400 in mint condition......secondly, this is the best sounding snare I have ever had. I only own 6.5 deep snares. To me they sound better. In this case or in mine, bigger is better........Bowing

Posted on 11 years ago
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The 400 works well if you want a "crisp" sound. The 402 works well if you want some "body" to your snare sound. I have one of each, they're tuned the same, and it's apparent that they are two totally different animals. If I had to choose, it would be the 402.

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Posted on 11 years ago
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My 1976 Lm 402 is my all time number 1 fav drum it has all that I require in a snare drum. I own a mint 1965 Lm 400 but it isn't my go to drum.

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Posted on 11 years ago
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Not surprised to hear about love for the 402. It's a great snare with a killer deep body sound.

I am surprised that nobody mentioned it depends on the kind of music played.

Are you saying that the 402 is versatile enough even for light play jazz, blues and early "British 60's sound?

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Posted on 11 years ago
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My 402 is pure PHATness. That being said it's really quite a quiet drum compared to my others. Apparently this is common with 402's. My 400 just rocks hard. I love both in they're own ways.

I have [get ready for the jargon] a 60's 6.5 COB SS that is just gorgeous. But my fave is my 6.5 70's Black Beauty. That has all I need from my 402, but with much more guts.

I must admit, I reckon i use my 6.5 snares much more in studios. I have a 50's 6.5 RK thats sees a lot of action. But my 400 comes out when I need more bite.

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Posted on 11 years ago
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I must say for me I think Ludwig found the magic when it came to producing metal snare drums. I know other companies through the years have produced some great examples, but IMO I always compare anything with, and ultimately turn back to my Luddies.

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60's Ludwig Downbeat Silver Spark
70's Ludwig Super Classic White Marine
60's Gretsch RB Champaigne Spark
70's Rogers Big R Black
90's Sonor Hilite (Red maple)
00's DW Collectors Broken Glass
00's DW Jazz Series Tangerine Glass
10's DW Collectors (Acrylic) Matt Black Wrap
10's PDP Concept Wood Hoop kit (Maple)
Proud ambassador of the British Drum Company
Posted on 11 years ago
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