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Leaving the Shell Alone

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Hey, Guys.

Today a vintage 15 inch rim Star marching drum arrived. It is in fantastic shape except for the old wrap: ripped and gouged to pieces. I removed all the hardware for future cleaning and polishing and decided I couldn't live with the wrap. Impossible to patch up. I carefully removed it and was surprised at how good the wood looked. Very little splintering as well. It appears six ply. This summer I patched up a set of Star bongos using a little plastic wood, some light sanding and SEVERAL coats of Tung oil. I'm very pleased with it. I'm thinking of doing the same thing with this big ol' snare. Has anyone had any experience with this type of non-rewrap? Thanks.

Brian

Just a drummer who loves all things about vintage drums! Nothing more, nothing less.
Posted on 11 years ago
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Nothing at all wrong with your plan. The drum may even sound -better- without the wrap. The only time you have to be careful is when you're wrapping a painted drum. Adding a layer of wrap to a factory painted shell could give heads a tight fit.

John

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Posted on 11 years ago
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From salty 1322

Hey, Guys. Today a vintage 15 inch rim Star marching drum arrived. It is in fantastic shape except for the old wrap: ripped and gouged to pieces. I removed all the hardware for future cleaning and polishing and decided I couldn't live with the wrap. Impossible to patch up. I carefully removed it and was surprised at how good the wood looked. Very little splintering as well. It appears six ply. This summer I patched up a set of Star bongos using a little plastic wood, some light sanding and SEVERAL coats of Tung oil. I'm very pleased with it. I'm thinking of doing the same thing with this big ol' snare. Has anyone had any experience with this type of non-rewrap? Thanks. Brian

Brian,Yes in the pass i have used this way on M.I.J. shells from the 60's-70's 6 to 9 ply luan shells. what i used was the same kind of wood plastic filler to make the shell nice and flat,then i painted the shells with a gray paint sanded the shell agian then did a black gloss paint on them...I have never used a clear stain but if the shell is nice why not your way sound's good to me....Mikey

Posted on 11 years ago
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From MIKEY777

Brian,Yes in the pass i have used this way on M.I.J. shells from the 60's-70's 6 to 9 ply luan shells. what i used was the same kind of wood plastic filler to make the shell nice and flat,then i painted the shells with a gray paint sanded the shell agian then did a black gloss paint on them...I have never used a clear stain but if the shell is nice why not your way sound's good to me....Mikey

Thanks, Mikey and John! Your expertise is far greater than mine. I really appreciate your input!

Brian

Just a drummer who loves all things about vintage drums! Nothing more, nothing less.
Posted on 11 years ago
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I have used wood filler but I am having second thoughts about it as a long term solution. I'm certainly not familiar with all the brands out there but I would think that the formula might be somewhat similar through the range. In playing a bit with it after the fact, it seems it might not stand up to vibration, perhaps cracking and losing purchase after a while? An alternate patching material, I have used, is a thick mixture of sawdust from my beltsander bag and white glue and although it shrinks a lot upon drying, I take the precaution of mounding it up upon application and or mixing an extra thick consistency , with a higher sawdust to glue proportion.

I have used it on bearing edge repairs and it works like a charm on those, pretty much deleting the cutting option , even for terrible edges.

In Luthier work, the glue used is known as a hide glue. For violins , it is considered that only hide glue should be used because it most closely approximates the resonance of the wood body of the instrument. There may be a lot of obsessive tradition at work here( certainly the common maple back and ribs would have a different resonance than the spruce top) but I am considering getting so obsessive as to mix sawdust ( of the shell type) with hide glue in the future, for such repairs, whether they are under the wrap or not.

Posted on 11 years ago
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Hi, calfskin,

Thank you for the very informative email. I have tried the sawdust method in the past and was pleased with the results. I have also used Minwax Woodfiller with Hardener and was also pleased. Hmmm...now I'm wondering. I had never heard of hide glue before. It must be quite amazing.

Thanks again and may I wish you a very Happy New Year!

Brian

Just a drummer who loves all things about vintage drums! Nothing more, nothing less.
Posted on 11 years ago
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