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Late 50s Slingerland 3-piece: restore/upgrade? Last viewed: 3 days ago

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First of all, hi everyone! I've been doing a lot of research and stumbled upon your community, so I figured I'd settle in and stay a while.

Now, to business...

I have this 3-piece in Capri Pearl that's been in my family for 40 years or so. (My great-grandmother picked it up second hand when, late in life, she decided to take up drumming!) I played it very briefly when I started learning drums way back when, and I'd like to get it play-worthy again!

Description of the kit:

- 14x22 bass, two busted calfskin heads

- 5.5x14 snare, clamshell, seems to be single-ply with re-rings (I'll be more certain once I take a head off). Throw-off still works great! Small slit in the snare-side head.

- 9x13 rack tom, original calfskin heads in pretty decent shape, all things considered

- Finish is in pretty good shape: no cracks or anything. The hoop inlays are all there, but the hoop paint is chipped in places. The bass wrap is peeling a little bit at one seam.

- The chrome is pitted, as you'd expect, and there's a little rust at the end of the throw-off and on the consolette.

- I have the hardware, too, in various states, and some old Zildjians. I still play the 15" hats, I broke the 8" splash a while ago, and the 18" sizzle has 0 rivets left and one small crack near the stamp. I love that cymbal, but I'm scared to play it! I plan to go looking for information on them after starting another thread on my Leedy frankenkit.

I've uploaded lots of pictures to an album under my profile, but I'm attaching some highlights here!

So, general questions for this knowledgeable forum:

- Is my ID correct? ~'58/'59, probably a "Windsor Outfit" without the floor tom?

- Where does the snare fall in the Radio King/Krupa nomenclature, if applicable?

- Is it too valuable/precious to play?

- How much should I clean it up?

- How much should I expect to pay if I can find a matching floor tom?

- Would it be terrible if I did some things like changed out hoops/heads/snares for playing if I keep the existing pieces with it and safely stored? I've worn off all the chrome from my current snare's 7-o'clock position, and I don't want to do the same thing here!

- What else is there to know about the kit? I'm delighted to answer questions/take more pictures.

Many thanks in advance for any insight or information!

Posted on 8 years ago
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Welcome jeeves! I can't really help you on identification as I don't know a whole lot about Slingerland, but the first thing I can tell from those photos is that it looks to be in great shape and all I would do is clean it up a bit, which really wouldn't be too daunting a task. I'd suggest removing the hardware and bathing it in Dawn dish soap for ~24 hours; that should shine up the chrome beautifully (after 24 hours take a soft toothbrush to it and then dry thoroughly). Then give the wrap a good clean & polish (Novus 2 & 1, and maybe a good carnauba wax job). Finally, I'm not sure it's worth removing the inlays from the bass hoops for a complete repaint, maybe just a bit of black touch-up would suffice.

How did the chrome wear off your current snare @ the 7:00 position?

That's a beautiful kit!

Vintage kits:
1969 Rogers Holiday - black diamond pearl (20/16/13/12)
196x Star (Lyra/Majestic) - blue sparkle pearl (22/14/13) Restoration Project
1987 Pearl KC-3500 - jet black (22/16/13/12)
Not-so-vintage kits:
2007 Hart Dynamics Professional 6.4 e-kit / Roland TDW-20
Snares:
60s Gretsch 5x14 maple WMP / 68 Ludwig 5x14 Supraphonic / 93 Pearl 3x14 Free Floating brass piccolo / 60s Star (Lyra) 5x14 luan blue sparkle pearl / 87 Pearl 6.5x14 steel
Posted on 8 years ago
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That was my thinking for the hardware, Vater, thanks for the confirmation. And I guess a little Novus/wax won't hurt while the hardware's off! Good suggestion on leaving the inlay and going for touch-up; I'm positive I'd never get it back on if I tried to take it off.

>> How did the chrome wear off your current snare @ the 7:00 position?

I wish I had a good excuse, but I think I might just be a little heavy-handed and over-frequent with my rimshots :)

Posted on 8 years ago
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In my opinion, the bass has faucet style tension rods that would place it at early 58. Late 58 and 59 had the torpedo style tension rods. I agree with Vater on the clean up procedure. Nice kit.

Posted on 8 years ago
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Oh, good eye, 10 Lug! I see you have a similar kit, looks like the torpedo style rods on the bass? Beautiful! Makes me excited to get mine all shined up and sounding right. This tom still sings as it is, though, after all those years.

This is fascinating: every detail helps date them a little more precisely!

Posted on 8 years ago
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Welcome to the forum. What a great kit !! Clean gently and don't drill any holes all will be good. Regret can't help with value.

Creighton

Nothing special here but I like them.
Posted on 8 years ago
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Be very cautious about removing the lugs. The Capri is very thin and tends to shrink, bubble and sl8de a little. I've restored a couple of Capri sets and in hindsight I would probably leave the hardware on and clean carefully.

It may cost up to $500 to find a matching floor tom, but it increase the value of the set by that much, so it would be worth the effort to get one. There are a few versions of Capri so finding a tom that matches exactly might take time.

I once had to buy 4 different floor toms to find one that matched my set.

Posted on 8 years ago
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That's two more votes from Creighton and Rich for a very gentle cleaning, got it.

Rich, what do you think about removing a lug at a time in order to clean both the lugs and the neighboring wrap? I don't want to make it riskier than I need to, so I'll trust your judgment.

I'll definitely be keeping my eyes out for a matching floor tom, thanks for the heads up about the upper range of prices, as well as the different finish versions! I don't suppose you happen to know what became of the 3 you bought that didn't match your set?

Posted on 8 years ago
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There have been recent discussions here about wrap suppliers. If I were fortunate to have that great looking drum set, I would find a floor tom in need of a new wrap. I would be confident that Bum Wraps could do a great job of replicating the wrap if you supply them with some pictures that accurately show the colors and random patterns in the wrap. If they can't get it 100% correct, 90% will do because the floor tom is in the shadow of the rest of drums, anyway. Picture #1 of the snare drum should be perfect for them to replicate the wrap.

No matter how far you push the envelope, it is still stationery.
Posted on 8 years ago
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That's an idea, leedybdp! I guess I wouldn't need to go through the trouble and expense of sourcing a truly matching floor tom, since the wrap won't be original? In the meantime, I'd keep an eye out for a real match.

Looking at the Bum Wraps website, it looks like all their wraps are printed digitally? Would they be able to match the occasional shine of the Capri finish? Maybe I should just read the discussions of wrap suppliers you mention...

Posted on 8 years ago
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