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JOHN GREY KELTIC MARCHING DRUM 14"x11.5" VINTAGE ALL ORIGINAL!

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hello! I restore old vintage/ brand new snares/toms and make them custom snares detailed to whatever you like. I also restore vintage drums fully back to original like think John Grey Keltic marching drum, that i can fnd NOTHING ABOUT!! and my problem is to finish it up to be fully functional, im missing parts for the parallel top snare strainer, that actually holds to snarewires in place and bridges the gap properly between the top head and the strainers. (see photo #1)

If anyone can tell me ANYTHING at all about this drum, what year, or what it may be worth, or if its even valuable at all.

SO far im thinking it was a one off drum built specific for a keltic marching band, and this could be one of the few that were made for a limited run.

PLEASE HELP!! THANK YOU!

Posted on 11 years ago
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Hindle and Healey might know something about these. From the look of the lugs, it bears resemblance to the Rose Morris line of drums from the early 70's. Try searching Rose Morris Keltic .

Posted on 11 years ago
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Hi,

Two resources come to mind.

Flint Percussion have always kept a historical overview of pipeband drums on their website. There was a Rose Morris Clansman on display there a while ago--not now.

http://www.flintpercussion.co.uk/history1.asp

They may be able and willing to help.

Pipeband Forum has a good drum subforum. I have had good luck with Carlton info. There are a handful of drummers with memories that go back further than the Kevlar head debacle.

John Grey/Rose Morris made the Clansman marching snare, there was a brief discussion of same here:

http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=10395

Not familiar with the "Keltic". It's interesting that out there on the internet there is so much less info in marching drums than kit drums. Perhaps marching drummers don't feel the same ownership -- no surprise --of their particular snares.

Good luck, fascinating drum.

Posted on 11 years ago
#3
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Thanks so much! hope i can find something on it!!! its so strange that there is a lot less info on marching drums than kit drums! A sort of "underground" which makes this search even more exciting! Cool Dude

Posted on 11 years ago
#4
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From patrick

There are a handful of drummers with memories that go back further than the Kevlar head debacle.

What Kevlar head debacle??? I love the kevlar head on my 16x16 rope tension snare.

-No Guru... still learning more every day-
Posted on 11 years ago
#5
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Kevlars came along at a time when lugs were not built for the tension that Kevlars could sustain. (Not your situation at all with a rope tensioned drum.) But in that never ending search for crispness and articulation drums were cranked beyond what the lugs and drums had been built for. Winding up the tension, which truly suited the Kevlars, caused a lot of shell damage. Lugs would pull through the wood. Beautiful drums but not built for the potential Kevlar offered.

It was a transitional moment pretty much leading to the free floaters with Legato out of Australia one of the early developers.

I hope I have some of that right.

Posted on 11 years ago
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Did you have any luck with Hindle and Heely? Doug Horner is the guy's name. He's on this forum, but not much. Another guy that might know something about it is Bobby Chaisson at Jolity's Drum Farm. I bought a '30s John Grey off of him. That guy is a wealth of knowledge and a very nice person.

Good luck.

Stephen

Vintage Drum Student
Posted on 11 years ago
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