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John Grey Autocrat snare

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Hi all. I've got a John Grey Autocrat snare, the narrow 3inch one - it's a fantastic sounding drum!

Only got one problem - the original snare mech doesn't stay on for more than a few minutes (it's the 'beer tap' variety). Anyone got any advice on fixing this?

Or are there any more modern mechanisms I could use that won't require drilling so I keep the shell nice and clean?

Thanks VDF.

Posted on 12 years ago
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I only know the beer tap type of throw on W.F.L. but I am imagining it to be a type with a threaded adjustment on one side and a simple lever that goes up and in towards the shell to lift the wires ( locking) and down and away from the shell to lower the wires. Is this correct?

Posted on 12 years ago
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Hi Calfskin - thanks for replying.

I think it's a bit simpler than the WFL one... please take a look at my picture. Basically, up is on, down is off. And there's a winding mechanism to tighten - which basically needs to be fully tight to work.

Any ideas what I can do?

Thanks

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Posted on 12 years ago
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From WebOnTheWebb

Hi Calfskin - thanks for replying.I think it's a bit simpler than the WFL one... please take a look at my picture. Basically, up is on, down is off. And there's a winding mechanism to tighten - which basically needs to be fully tight to work.Any ideas what I can do?Thanks

I have found that a single knot on the snare cord slips a bit and you have to keep tightening the throwoff to keep tension up. Double knots work well ,usually.It sounds to me like you have pretty much bottomed out with regards to strainer adjustment . Perhaps backing off the strainer to it's loosest and then restringing the wires will give you more tension on the wires and therefore put more tension on the handle., keeping it upright.You might be able to do this at the butt end , alone if it doesn't decentre the wires too much. It also looks like the handle is riveted into place. It may be very loose and floppy. Putting the throwoff on the anvil part of a vice ,on the head of the rivet and peining it some until the handle, moves with some resistance , might help stop it falling over as well. I know that one is a bit of work but if tensioning the wires a little more doesn't work; the two of them together might.

It looks like the end of the handle is rocker shaped. I would think, having a slightly concave seat for it to nest into would halt this problem too. Perhaps, there was a concave washer up top, that is missing?

Posted on 12 years ago
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Hey thats a cool drum! I dont know how to fix it but Im in the mood for a draft beer now!

Jeff C


Thank you!
Jeff C

"Enjoy every sandwich" Warren Zevon
Posted on 12 years ago
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It sounds fantastic too...

And thanks Calfskin... I'm going to try some of your ideas when I get a spare five minutes and post back the results for posterity.

Thanks for the replies!

Posted on 12 years ago
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Nice snare, hoops especially! Put us more pics, please!

I love this cam-operated throwoff - I think Phil's suggestion about washer can help.

It's also not bad to check the cam's wear - it's strongly influenced to the fixation.

George.

Posted on 12 years ago
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Thanks all... tried the washer idea (and tightened up the fixings) and it's mostly okay, though can still slip off occasionally. Possibly that's just something I have to put up with!

I've attached some more pictures if anyone's interested... I'm thinking of selling up now too.

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Posted on 12 years ago
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I am not sure if this is the same problem I had a few years ago with a slippy P85. A friend suggested I try slipping a plastic tube over the threads that met the nut at the top and and the nut at the bottom. Stayed tight there on.

(Plastic tube was just some left over stuff from my cymbal stands.)

good luck,

Patrick

Posted on 12 years ago
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Thanks for that... the mechanism is kind of all one piece, so I'd have to split any cover which then makes it difficult to stay in position.

Thanks for the interest, though...

Posted on 12 years ago
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