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I've come to the dark side... DW

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Well, I purchased my first DW kit. I found it on Craigslist and got it for what I feel is a really good price, $900.00. The kit is in good to excellent condition with only a few minor scratches and pedal rash on the bass hoop in one spot. No rust anywhere.

The kit is a Collectors Series in "black ice" wrap. The sizes are 18x22, 8x10, and 14x16 floor (w/ legs). The bass drum and floor tom are "gold badge" and dated Nov. 2007. The 10" rack is "silver badge" and dated in 2009. All of the wrap matches.

Forgive me for posting about a set that isn't vintage, but I value your guys' opinion and have a couple of questions for those who own, or have owned DW Collector's Series.

1.) Do you guys feel that I bought these at a good price? I feel that they are worth in the $1500 range or so. I bought these as an investment.. .I figured at the price I paid, it was a no loose situation.

2.) The heads on the toms at the moment are Remo Emperor White Suede, and seem to have decent life left. What kind of heads would you recommend come head change time?

3.) How do you guys prefer to tune the toms? So far I have tuned batter/reso to the same tensions using a drum dial, but I saw a video with John Good that recommends using single ply heads and tuning the reso heads "slightly" lower than the batters.

Thank you guys in advance for your replies! And to keep this somewhat vintage... I am playing on my 1965 Acrolite that I purchased from Purdie Shuffle (John) a few months back. I can't seem to get enough of this drum! It is absolutely amazing.

-Justin

"People might look at you a bit funny, but it's okay. Artists are allowed to be a bit different."- Bob Ross

"After silence, that which comes closest to expressing the inexpressible is music..." - Aldous Huxley
Posted on 10 years ago
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justin first off yes that is a good price for a top of the line drum kit. here is the take on Dw's resale. the sizes are to me yuck. Dw has sold more 18" deep bass drums than I think anyone has, I hate 18' deep shells to me anything past 16" well no thanks, the tom sizes are once again no thanks to me, Then it comes to what finish the hardware is and then the shell finish also is all to a potential buyer, to most who have played for a long time the sizes are a no thanks. to the younger players they would probably like them. Now to tuning, I hate the stock heads that dw uses. that is the 1st thing I got rid of put a remo p3 on the reso bass drum side and a ambassador smooth white on the front, remo coated emperors on all toms and coated ambassadors on the bottom, big improvement to me anyway. Keep you Dw kit a while and try a few head combos then make the decision to keep or sale them.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 10 years ago
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Thanks sir! I was sort of thwarted away by the tom sizes, but not enough to not buy them. With a 10" rack tom, I would prefer maybe a 14" floor. With this 16" floor, I would prefer a 12" rack... but, so far it seems that I can get a good enough sound at a mid-lower tuning out of the 10" to make it work ok. Thanks for your input on heads; I tend to like coated Emperors also on most toms as well, with the reso's usually being clear Ambassadors (which are on the drum at the moment).

-Justin

"People might look at you a bit funny, but it's okay. Artists are allowed to be a bit different."- Bob Ross

"After silence, that which comes closest to expressing the inexpressible is music..." - Aldous Huxley
Posted on 10 years ago
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Sounds like a nice kit Justin congrats!! I always liked DW's. Hey show us a few pics will ya!!

Glenn.

Not a guru just havin fun with some old dusty drums.
Posted on 10 years ago
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I will be holding onto my old DW's for as long as I can. They are todays modern classics.

I don't think you did bad at all at that price. That should be one tight sounding funk kit right there.

I get what Vintagemore2000 is saying regards sizes, because when I'm in vintage mode I'm the same. And I love the look of that.

But it's the 21st century for crying out loud. Let's mix it up a little. That 22 should be tight and punchy. That 10 and 16 will give you a nice spread. Especially mic'd. Marry the kit with a nice sharp sounding snare, not to wide, maybe a 14 or even 13x5 and boom you have a tight powerful kit. And very different to it's traditional vintage ancestors.

Anyway, drummers might look at it a bit funny, but it's okay. Artists drum sets are allowed to be different.

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Posted on 10 years ago
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Can't comment on the DW's Justin, never owned a set. I'm glad you're enjoying the Acro. It's a real workhorse snare drum. Enjoy your new DW's.

John

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Posted on 10 years ago
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I think that’s a very good price for those drums. I have a DW Collector’s kit in 22/10/12/14 – also a slightly weird combination of sizes with that big 18x22 kick. But they are exceptionally well-made drums and provide a different sound than my vintage kits. Like Vintagemore2000, I didn’t care for the stock Remo clear heads that the kit came with new. I replaced them with coated Ambassadors top and bottom and it was a vast improvement. I’ve also experimented with Aquarian Performance II heads, which really emphasize a modern, punchy sound. I recently tried Aquarian’s Modern Vintage heads on them and am very impressed. Not quite as warm as a vintage kit but getting pretty darn close. However you end up liking them (or not), you shouldn’t lose money on the deal. Have fun!

Gary

60's Gretsch Round Badge 22/13/16
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Posted on 10 years ago
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Not sure I'd call it the dark side but welcome. You've bought some nice drums.

Posted on 10 years ago
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I've never owned a whole kit, but I did pick up a Collectors floor in the same size as yours awhile ago. I used it quite a bit for a few months and it sounded good, but not as good as vintage floor toms I've owned. Anyway, I wound up selling it for $300 and I had re-finished it in a silver sparkle paint, so it wasn't even original and I still got a good price, so I think you did very well.

As far as tuning, I always use coated ambassadors on top and clear on bottom and I tune the resonant side higher, gives the drums more projection.

Posted on 10 years ago
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All I know is that just about every live performance that you see on TV, the drummer is playing DW drums. So they must be pretty darn good.

Congrats on your purchase, sounds like you got them for a good price.


Thank you!
Jeff C

"Enjoy every sandwich" Warren Zevon
Posted on 10 years ago
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