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Irrational restorations

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OK. I have this Ludwig 552. It has sentimental value and also sounds awesome. I purchased it for about $300 a long time ago, when my other snare drum (that's right, only had one) was stolen. I got it back (another story) but in the meantime I bought this snare. I didn't even notice or care that it had an extra hole and a Pearl throw. Young and dumb. Anyway, it paid for itself many times over and it was my rock snare. Then I started hanging around with you guys. So of course I replaced the throw and also found out that it most likely came with die-cast rims. Dumb again. I should have paid $200 but this is Australia after all. Anyway, I've been playing it lately and since my Tama experience, I thought I would look for die-cast rims. Found a set at Arizona Drum Shop. $115 for the pair and $50 shipping. I looked at the drum and thought "this is not rational". It's a non-original drum and it owes me $300. The rims plus shipping were AU$195. So I'd be $500 into a bronze snare drum that would most likely fetch $250- $300 in the US. But I thought of all those gigs; the people I played with - and I did it. The first good omen was that the seller refunded me US$10 for the shipping - and they had already shipped it. In 15 minutes. Some come on brothers! I've just been following a thread where a lucky so and so scored a $2500 drum for $45. I need someone to say it's ok sometimes to not make the sensible restoration.

PS: Is there any way to disguise a small extra hole just at the top of the throw? Bronze screw? Solder?

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Posted on 10 years ago
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do something good with the sale

April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
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once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Posted on 10 years ago
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I'd just play it the way it is. you could contact Ak drums he can fix it but it will cost.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 10 years ago
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I know the feeling you describe and I don't blame you. It makes you happy, and you'll probably keep it forever.

I've used these to cover holes before: http://tinyurl.com/pv6phb7

Get a "flat head" brass (or chrome) screw that fits into the washer, and for the inside, a flat washer and nut. It'll look good, and best of all, it'll blend in.

Posted on 10 years ago
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Worth every dime. Clapping Happy2

Posted on 10 years ago
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man, that's a great drum. sure don't see many of them either. i'd hit the hardware store for a round head/flat back brass machine bolt and install it in the hole if it bugs you. would love to see a pic of it with the die casts when you get them. enjoy it!

mike

Posted on 10 years ago
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You bought a nice player's drum, had a great time playing it for many years as your favorite rock snare and now you want to replace the oddball parts that came with it with the kind that Ludwig would have originally shipped on it?

If that is "irrational" then I must be a total fruitcake.

I don't see anyone around here expressing the notion that only pristine pieces are worth fixing up; if I did I would never have stuck around.

Yeah, that guy got a fantastic deal. $45 because Guitar Center didn't know what they had.

And you paid $300 for a drum that played so nice you used it to create years of priceless memories for yourself and others.

I'll take the years of enjoyment for $300. An instrument that has whatever that special something is that inspires me is rare indeed.

My favorite snare is a 70's Acrolite with surface scuffs and the name of the school program that dumped it vibro-etched into the top rim, and I went to the trouble of putting together a blackface P-85 from junk box parts to stick on it. And I'm one of those people who thinks the P-85 is a poor design. The made in China one that was on there fit perfectly and worked more smoothly. But putting an "original" strainer on this beater student snare drum made me happy.

To paraphrase Clint Eastwood, "rational's" got nothin' to do with it!

Put a round head brass rivet in the extra hole.

-Erik
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Posted on 10 years ago
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Mike is right about how to fix the extra hole, and Eric and Clint are right about "rational".

You can't always worry about the "investment value" of things you enjoy. I have more than one snare that I have put far more into than I will ever get out (I also have a couple of cars that fall into that same category), but I love the way they look and sound. I enjoy playing them and showing my snare collection to friends. Consider it an investment in your happiness. (My wife always uses that "rational".)

Gary G.
1963 Ludwig Gold Sparkle Hollywood Kit
Ludwig Collection: 10 Vintage Snare Drums, 4 Customized Vintage Snare Drums, 4 Vintage Foot Pedals, 1 Single Value Bugle
Posted on 10 years ago
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I don't know anything about that model but I'd have thought it would be worth more than $500 in Aussie?

I'm always looking for bargains but I also can't stand an unfinished project so I've been known to spend too much just so it can be complete again. Take my recent Trixon Telstar purchase - the bass drum, snare and FT were cheap, and considering the difficulty finding the missing ride tom would entail the sensible course of action would've been to part them out. But I just can't do that. Instead I've managed to locate the correct tom and in the process pay significantly more for that one drum than I paid for the rest of the kit. It needed to be done though - I just don't know why:)

Andrew

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Posted on 10 years ago
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Thanks for all your words of encouragement. The rims are on the way and I have a few bronze cymbal rivets which might do for the hole - although I am not bothered by it myself. Looking forward to having it 100% Ludwig again!

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