Looking for information on an Instanbul cymbal. From what I have read on the Internet it has the new stamp (60s-70s). It does not have a signature under the bell. Trying to find out what it is worth.
It is an 18" cymbal, see pics on reply response below.
Any help is appreciated.
Picture of the stamp is always helpful. Diameter and weight in grams also is helpful. Your best bet is to do a completed search of similar items on eBay.
Pictures for Instanbul cymbal.
As I said earlier, weight in grams is more helpful.
An 18 inch is considered probably a crash/ride. A more recent eBay auction has one that sold for $949.00.
Again, check completed and sold auctions on eBay for your best idea for what to sell it for.
1300g and under is usually worth more than 1500g and over. Thin is in. That is why it affects the expected price.
An 18 inch is considered probably a crash/ride. A more recent eBay auction has one that sold for $949.00.
There are a few old stamps going in that range in the completed listings. Not new stamps, or intermediate stamps that I can see.
Again, check completed and sold auctions on eBay for your best idea for what to sell it for.
Alas, because new stamps usually fetch lower prices than old stamps, sending somebody off to completed listings without more info on just what factors matter may not be the best thing for them.
However, you can look here in this recent thread:
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showpost.php?p=291440&postcount=44
If you used $949 as an expected value for a new stamp that would be a good example of over estimation due to confirmation bias (I talk about that briefly in the post I linked to). Not that backbeatkeeper was suggesting you use that one value of $949. But just to drop in a more realistic value at this point, the completed listings show this new stamp 18" at 1390g which went for $525 on Dec 5, 2013.
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Now that I've seen them I may have to go and record the several old stamp 18s which sold at above $800 and consider updating my ranges. But then I have to record more sales to make sure I get the bottom of the range right as well...it takes a lot of work to do these things to best practice. *sigh*
1300g and under is usually worth more than 1500g and over. Thin is in. That is why it affects the expected price. There are a few old stamps going in that range in the completed listings. Not new stamps, or intermediate stamps that I can see. Alas, because new stamps usually fetch lower prices than old stamps, sending somebody off to completed listings without more info on just what factors matter may not be the best thing for them. However, you can look here in this recent thread:http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showpost.php?p=291440&postcount=44If you used $949 as an expected value for a new stamp that would be a good example of over estimation due to confirmation bias (I talk about that briefly in the post I linked to). Not that backbeatkeeper was suggesting you use that one value of $949. But just to drop in a more realistic value at this point, the completed listings show this new stamp 18" at 1390g which went for $525 on Dec 5, 2013.http://www.ebay.com/itm/190993223578Now that I've seen them I may have to go and record the several old stamp 18s which sold at above $800 and consider updating my ranges. But then I have to record more sales to make sure I get the bottom of the range right as well...it takes a lot of work to do these things to best practice. *sigh*
I agree. The pecking order is 22" rides, 20" rides an 18" crash/rides. The bigger cymbals are more expensive not only because of their size but because they are also more favored. A new stamp or newer new stamp (if Bill is still using that designation) will go for less than an intermediate or one of the older stamps. $949 is way too high for this cymbal in the current economy. I would guess around $600 plus or minus $50 would be the target range.
Thanks for your help! My next move it to weigh the cymbal. Just looking around on eBay I'm thinking the cymbal is in the $400-$500 range.
