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From bonzo119

Thanks for all the info, I'll do some further investigation, photos and definitely some measurements. Watch this space. I have to say I'm constantly amazed by the wealth of knowledge of the members of this forum. Cheers guys Tony.

Just keep it up and soon you will be a Guru! Look at me....July of last year, I didn't know diddly about MIJ stuff, and now I am an international expert....so to speak. I love these old things, especially the 3 ply shells. Once you get a handle on what you want to do, we can pow-wow and get them up to snuff and sounding amazing. I know you have another, high quality kit somewhere, but if you keep an open mind and take some tips from us that have a lot of experience in tweaking these drums, you will be astounded at how they perform. And the best part is you can do so on the down-low, cash wise.

There are too many "drum snobs" that think these are garbage, and occasionally we get sideways, but I'm telling you, if you keep it open, and listen and do the few tricks, you will find this may become a gigging kit for you. The reason you might want to grab another kit that is 100% correct and also 3 ply is very simple: for the money, and the fact that once they are tweaked, you can save wear and tear on your irreplacable Vintage American drums, and use these babies. No one will know but you, because once the work is done, and you have invested in new heads, you can have two kits, set up for different styles or settings, and have less in both of them than you have in your prized snare. That is assuming you paid more than 300-400 for a top shelf snare...anyway, I think you get the point. Sorry for the long "rant", but I am very passionate, and a champion of the down-trodden, misunderstood and much maligned MIJ sets. This is not to say they are all great diamonds in the rough, but many of them are. And they are so cheap!

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Posted on 14 years ago
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Hi all, So after further investigation here's what I have so far...

Tom 1:10x9, 5 lug, 3 Ply. This definitely a newer drum, the inside has been painted recently and there is evidence of the old tom mount hole that has been filled in. Takes standard size tension rods.

Tom 2:13x9, 6 lug, 5 Ply: Looks to be all original. Standard size tension rods.

Floor Tom: 15x12, 8 Lug, 5 Ply. This is a real Frankenstein drum. The top row of lugs protrude into the drum shell and take the odd Japanese pitch tension rods (65mm long) underneath these lugs you can see the original color of the wrap.The legs and fitting screws for the them and the top row all seem to be original. But the bottom row of lugs are very slightly different, they are lighter than the top row and take a standard size tension rod. There is real evidence that the shell has been recently drilled for the bottom row of lugs...the wrap underneath has mellowed and I can see the pencil line where the holes have been centered.

Could this have been a tom with no resonator head?? Maybe this is why you have all said that it should be 14 or 16....

Kick: 20x14, 6 Lug, 6 Ply: The interior has recently been painted, under this I can see where the holes for the original spurs have been filled.This lugs take standard size tension rods.

Well that's what I found so far but will be completely stripping all the hardware off the drums and may find something else. I plan to touch up the bearing edges on all the drums and may look into getting matching lugs throughout, at least for the 13 and 15 which I plan to use on this kit.

Happy Drumming
Tony
Posted on 14 years ago
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More Pics....

Pic 3: Note protruding "lug' on the "original' lug...the one with the tension rod in it.

Pic 4: Interior of 15" showing screws for mounting plate

Pic 5: Underneath the 'origional' lugs on the 15" showing the difference in color on the wrap.

Happy Drumming
Tony
Posted on 14 years ago
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Last set of pics for now...

Pic1: Kick drum claws /Rods: All but two are the top (more baseball bat style) rods, I'd love to get me hands on two more matching rods. They are 190mm (7.5inch) long (under collar). The threaded section is 43mm long.

Pic 2: Hole and mount for cymbal arm..

Pic 3/4/5: Mounted tom bracket. I'm not sure if you can make it out but the teeth are almost worn down to the circular flange on the outside of them, consequently they struggle to lock or at least stay locked in position. I wondered if I should just file into the flange in-between each individual tooth until they can lock correctly. Has anybody else had this issue? Did you come up with a genius solution...or if not genius at least a solution? :)

Well that's all I have for now... I plan to use this kit mainly at home as a practice kit but I do want it to look and sound as good as possible. If I can get it to sound like it should then it may well get recorded on some tracks that would suit the more "vintage' sound... so any suggestions / comments / questions etc will all be taken on board. Thanks for letting me ramble..

Cheers guys...all the best...

Tony

Happy Drumming
Tony
Posted on 14 years ago
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So what is the problem??Laughing H Are you missing some parts? Not anymore i have them t-rods,tom mount..Mikey

Posted on 14 years ago
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