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ID these drums? Possibly Premier XPK, Vitria?

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I just acquired a great looking kit I was told is a Premier 5 pc maple from the mid to late 90s. The seller said the original owner removed the badges. It indeed looks like an XPK series down to the unfinished interior, bearing edges and Topaz lacquer color. However, the lugs are very slightly different from other XPK low mass lugs I've seen. Is it possible there was a variation in design at some point? The shells are 6-ply maple possibly, but also could be 6-ply birch/eucalytpus/birch. I can't really tell. Also the toms have what appear to be an early model iso-mount. Again these look similar to Premier iso-mounts, but slightly different. The bass claws look generic unlike most XPKs and the floor tom leg mounts are well thought but also different. To make this more confusing the snare throw-off looks exactly like the strainer on Premier's newest Artist series (successor to the XPK). Lastly, the sizes are somewhat odd: 22x16, 16x16, 13x11, 12x10, 14x5.5.

So what do I have here? A strange Yamaha-Premier stepchild? Some kind of prototype perhaps? Maybe a different brand entirely?

[IMG]http://i945.photobucket.com/albums/ad296/monjumusic/drums/premier5pc.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i945.photobucket.com/albums/ad296/monjumusic/drums/shell.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i945.photobucket.com/albums/ad296/monjumusic/drums/isomount.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i945.photobucket.com/albums/ad296/monjumusic/drums/strainer.jpg[/IMG]

Posted on 14 years ago
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For comparison here are some actual Premier photos:

1995 Premier XPK model

[IMG]http://i945.photobucket.com/albums/ad296/monjumusic/drums/PremierXPK_1995.jpg[/IMG]

2008 Premier snare throw-off

[IMG]http://i945.photobucket.com/albums/ad296/monjumusic/drums/apk_throw_off.jpg[/IMG]

1998 Premier XPK Jazz kit

[IMG]http://i945.photobucket.com/albums/ad296/monjumusic/drums/IMG_1941.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i945.photobucket.com/albums/ad296/monjumusic/drums/PremierXPKJazz1998_2.jpg[/IMG]

circa 2002 Iso Mounts on Premier Artist Maple

[IMG]http://i945.photobucket.com/albums/ad296/monjumusic/drums/Isomounts.jpg[/IMG]

Posted on 14 years ago
#2
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I think it probably is a Premier, as those lugs look the same from the photos, and the amber is spot-on to the actual Premier example you posted. However, those look like rather crude iso-mounts, possibly custom built. And look at the floor tom leg mounts - they're way to square and blocky. Possibly someone bought a set of Premier shells and refitted their own hardware. Looks like a nice kit though!

Tama Superstar, 22, 22, 16, 14, 13 Desert Burst
Premier Genista, 22, 16, 13, 12 Black Lacquer
Premier Genista, 20, 14, 10 and snare Black Lacquer
Premier Resonator 22, 16, 14, 13 poly creme/black
Zickos 22, 16, 14, 13, clear acrylic and snare
Posted on 14 years ago
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I'm going out on a limb-Custom Classic marketed by Sigler music in Arkansas.Probably 3-5 years old.Same factory makes Gretsch Catalina Maple,but different lugs.They are now using Rockstar style stretch lugs,but a few years ago the used lugs like the ones you have pictured.The tom mont on the bass drum looks like it,too.

Posted on 14 years ago
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Thanks for the replies. I've received feedback in both directions and believe they were probably a private label brand as mentioned. Were they made to look like Premier, who knows? Have contacted Sigler and another possibly retailer. Thanks again.

Posted on 14 years ago
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