i met this fella on a music forum the other day who said he would sell me a 1964 ludwig 4 piece...the kit is diamond black and he is asking 599 for it..it seems to be having some issues...i cant tell if this is extra holes or where it had something originaly mounted ....and on the bass drum there are 4 legs....
I would like your opinions ...is it worth that and could it be fixed.... is it worth fixing ....
i met this fella on a music forum the other day who said he would sell me a 1964 ludwig 4 piece...the kit is diamond black and he is asking 599 for it..it seems to be having some issues...i cant tell if this is extra holes or where it had something originaly mounted ....and on the bass drum there are 4 legs....I would like your opinions ...is it worth that and could it be fixed.... is it worth fixing ....
hmmmm....
Is it worth is? maybe. not to me, but might be for you or someone else.
Could it be fixed? of course. not too tough.
Is it worth fixing? absolutely. nice drums.
You make your own decisions...obviously. My take with my money - nope. I don't like painted grommets. It's a sign. I also don't like that particular wrap. Again, this is my taste. There are a couple of other lights that shy me away (EC2 heads, etc). Nice drums, though. I believe they are worth the dough...just not for me.
Work him down. The double legs are original and I think there might have been a modification to the bass and tom. Send me a PM and I'll talk to you.
A grommet is what holds the badge in place on the drum. I would visually inspect it in person. Make sure all the drums are in order, same lugs, no cracks in shells. Sometimes just looking at a drum for a few minutes will allow you to see things that you've missed in pictures.
If he has a date of manufacture, check the drums, their might be a stamp. Interiors can be painted, and new paint will be easy to see. I inspect the inside of drums to see if someone has taken it apart, check a date, bearing edges. Check drums side by side for matching lugs, rims and wrap. Make sure all parts are working, look for stripped threads, mismatched floor tom holders. Repairs and/or signs of replacement of badges can be a warning sign to restoration and some people are very good at making excellent copies of good drums with imported drums.
Spend a few minutes taking the drum apart with owner's permission to inspect. Two things happen, maybe a third. One, you can find issues. Two, the seller will know that your not just a "kick the tires" kind of guy. Lastly, after buying several kits myself, and inspecting them before I buy, you can point out things the seller may not have noticed, and that may give you an edge on a price drop.
The extra 2 legs is not original, but could have been made that way or added on after the fact, see how well the front match the rear.
It looks like there are a few holes in those drums. The original tom mount holes appear to be from a diamond plate clip mount. The bass drum legs could have been added by a music shop or by the owner. The tom tom mount is later than '64 and I see extra holes there, too. The bass drum hoops are missing the inlay strips, but appear to be repainted. As a nitpicky collector, I don't think I'd pay that much, but the drums will likely sound great and be a great player's set.
thanks for the great info ....im just ready to get into a set of luddys...but probably not those
I don't think that tom mount was offered until late 60's early seventies,oops, o lugs beat me to it.150.00 a drum for a 60's player kit might not fly in this economy,but if they are in good mechanical shape/condition and sound good I think 125.00 to 100.00a drum would be a good deal for a nice players kit.
It is very possible that those dual bass drum legs are original. Ludwig ios my brand and I have seen many sets with dual legs. I'll show a pic of ringo on one in 1964.
That's true. They could be original. I've seen them before, too.
