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How To Ruin A Great Day

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A guy offered to trade his 5-piece Slingerland Phantoms for my Slingerland Classic Rock Set. I go and check them out: they were almost perfect! The snare has been repaired along it’s seam, but it looks as good as the other drums. I don’t see a single scratch or crack on the drums.

We do the trade. I cased them up and drove them an hour to my home. They sat for a few hours, then I commence to setting them up.

Bass drum first, insert the spurs, attach the pedal. CRACK! The bass drum formed two curved cracks emanating from both screws of one of the spur mounts! I had elevated the reso hoop half an inch like I have always done with my conventional drums.

Deflated, I continued setting up the set, and the snare makes a ‘pop’ sound as I am setting it on the stand. A short crack coming from the strainer!

These drums live a charmed life for 45 years, then I get my grubbies on them and disaster strikes.

I backed away, checking for hidden cameras in my house. What the heck???!!!

Posted on 5 years ago
#1
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So sorry to hear of your misfortune!!

My guess, is the seller over-tightened the hardware when he had them apart to detail them...When the drums were moved from their location, traveled the distance, set back up and possible climate/humidity change, all added to the unfortunate end result...

Can you post pics?

Cheers

1976 Ludwig Mach 4 Thermogloss 26-18-14-14sn
1978 Ludwig Stainless 22-22-18-16-14-13-12 c/w 6-8-10-12-13-14-15-16-18-20-22-24 concert toms
1975 Sonor Phonic Centennials Metallic Pewter 22-16-13-12-14sn (D506)
1971 Ludwig Classic Bowling Ball OBP 22-16-14-13
1960's Stewart Peacock Pearl 20-16-12-14sn
1980`s Ludwig Coliseum Piano Black 8x14 snare
1973 Rogers Superten 5x14 & 6.5x14 COS snares
1970`s John Grey Capri Aquamarine Sparkle 5x14 snare
1941 Ludwig & Ludwig Super 8x14 snare
Posted on 5 years ago
#2
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That is really, really weird.

Posted on 5 years ago
#3
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Condolences. I've always had fears like this that have kept me away from trying anything acrylic.

John/Levelpebble

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Camco Oaklawn 12 14 20 5x14 Tuxedo WMP
LW 59 SC Blue Sparkle, WMP
WFL Gold Sparkle SC, WMP Compacto
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Way Too Many Snares, She Says
Posted on 5 years ago
#4
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From grantro

So sorry to hear of your misfortune!! My guess, is the seller over-tightened the hardware when he had them apart to detail them...When the drums were moved from their location, traveled the distance, set back up and possible climate/humidity change, all added to the unfortunate end result...Can you post pics?Cheers

I believe Rod has hit the problem dead on the money !!!

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 5 years ago
#5
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Like all photos of clear items, it’s kinda hard to see.

The first photo is of the left spur mount, taken from the front (reso side) of the drum, through the head.

The second photo is of the right side of the strainer.

I will repair the cracks with Weldon. Then lay on the floor in a fetal position and suck my thumb...I knew that acrylic drums had potential to crack, and that has kept me away from them, too, but come on!!

I also assumed it was due to a change in temp, but I think that was minimal.

Posted on 5 years ago
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I suppose “lemon laws” don’t apply to drums...such a strange turn of events...maybe you angered the Phantom! My only experience with the Slingerland Phantom was answering an ad on CL for one only to find out it was a MIJ Star acrylic kit...it did have Slingerland heads on the toms, and a Slingerland snare stand though. Long story short, I still ended up buying the kit, and the silver lining is that researching the MIJ kit, and how to refurbish it, led me here to the VDF and now I have four more vintage kits in my basement...come to think of it maybe the Slingerland Phantom is a curse!!!!

Stop stringing and tuning your instrument, make music now.
-fortune cookie

Vintage Drums:
1970ish Ludwig Standard Avocado Strata downbeat
1970ish Star Acrylic 22,12,13,16
1950’s Gretsch tympani 26.5
19?? Sonor roto-tympani 13x12
70’s Ludwig Standard alum 14x5 snare
90’s Arbiter Adv. Tuning 12x5 snare
90’s Ludwig blackrolite 14x5 snare

Modern Drums:
Erie Drums 1-ply sycamore shell kit 18,10,13
Erie 1-ply maple 14x5 snare
Tama S.L.P. Acrylic 14x6.5 snare
Posted on 5 years ago
#7
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The guy I traded with was stand-up. He was mortified and offered to ‘untrade’ them. I’m keeping ‘em.

I managed to sneak up on them today and played them gently. They sound great!

Posted on 5 years ago
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From jmcohen

The guy I traded with was stand-up. He was mortified and offered to ‘untrade’ them. I’m keeping ‘em.I managed to sneak up on them today and played them gently. They sound great!

Glad to hear there is a happy ending! Still, very unfortunate that this happened.

-Mark

Posted on 5 years ago
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From idrum4fun

Glad to hear there is a happy ending! Still, very unfortunate that this happened. -Mark

Yeah, I plan to just hang on to them. They may never leave my house until after I croak. I already ordered the weldon and watched a few videos on how to do it. Maybe they won’t keep cracking like nervous potato chips and I can really enjoy them. Trying to stay positive.

Thanks, everyone, for your condolences.

Josh

Posted on 5 years ago
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