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How to remove wrinkles on wrap?

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You have to look at it like an old time autobody man....heat the wrap then quench it with a cool wet towel......heat and shrink....

Posted on 15 years ago
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From Ludwig-dude

You have to look at it like an old time autobody man....heat the wrap then quench it with a cool wet towel......heat and shrink....

I tried freezing spray and a microfiber cloth....the thing is that it is shrinking quite fast when it is heated. You can notice if looking at the wrap edge...more wood is showing up on the drum... : (

Because of this additional shrinking, the wrinkle is getting harder and harder to remove. It's been one day it's standing there, looking at me while I decide what to do.......

1997 not-quite-vintage fully restored Pearl EX in Red Wine Finish
1965 Slingerland Deluxe Student Model Snare in Red Sparkle Finish. Now that's some vintage...
Posted on 15 years ago
#12
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Removing the old wrap is really not all that hard. Just soften the glue with a hair dryer or a heat gun on low setting and pull off slowly...don't rip it off especially on drums with softer wood, you can pull some wood off too. The biggest job is taking the hardware off. The wrap will be fairly easy. Then clean up any large amounts of glue with solvent, a light sand and you're ready to re-wrap. It's much easier to detail the hardware with it off the drums. Re-assembly is fun as you see the kit come together. The result will be worth the effort.

Posted on 15 years ago
#13
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I used a tape called "filamentosa" down here. It's a thick packaging tape that has polyester or fiber glass strands on it. Not sure how they call it there.

Check the attached pictures. In the one with the tapes, the right side is a sliding drawer, so I could insert my leg between the shell and the drawer and force it strongly, tensioning the tapes and wrap while heating it. Used a polyester ("microfiber") rag to even the surface with my hands.

The wrap has a tendency of shrinking towards the middle of the shell. That could be seen in the parts I had tried to to the heating/freezing job before this method. The wrap edges near it were shorter, you could see more wood there, than in the rest.

So the tape is being used to force the wrap towards the shell edge while heating. This helped a LOT in having the bigger bubbles and even the sh*** I did on the first intervention to almost disappear. It's a pitty I heated too much on the first tries, which left at mark in the wrap (darker, like if someone cut the wrap). Well....

There are lots of different ways of doing it, I did the way I had on my mind at the moment (that includes my lazyness in building a rig for).

Well, I hope that can help someone else in the future.

Happy beatings... :)

Jeffo.

- EDIT: THE IMAGES THAT SHOULD BE HERE WERE UPLOADED TO FTPIMAGES.COM WHICH IS NO LONGER IN BUSINESS, APPARENTLY. I WILL BE UPLOADING AGAIN THE IMAGES TO A NEW HOST AS SOON AS I CAN -

The original bubble

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Fixing

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After

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After

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1997 not-quite-vintage fully restored Pearl EX in Red Wine Finish
1965 Slingerland Deluxe Student Model Snare in Red Sparkle Finish. Now that's some vintage...
Posted on 15 years ago
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From the_drum_dad

You should be able to get very close on the wrap. But with gloss solid color wraps you are in the least expensive category so it would not be too much more to do the whole kit. Then you don't have to worry about an exact color match and the condition will be similar. That would be my approach.

I was re-reading the thread...

I have searched many shops that carry wraps...know what is funny? CAN'T FIND even ONE metallic/solid color wrap!!! They were pearls, glasses, glitters, flakes, onyxes, flames, satins and so and so on....not a single metallic color... :(

Well...after fixing the bubbles and hardware the drum is ready for 12 years more...then I'll think about a new wrap for the next restoration... :))))

1997 not-quite-vintage fully restored Pearl EX in Red Wine Finish
1965 Slingerland Deluxe Student Model Snare in Red Sparkle Finish. Now that's some vintage...
Posted on 15 years ago
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I'm really impressed!!! Great job and thanks for sharing, I'm sure this is one technique that will be used many times here over the years!

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Posted on 15 years ago
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From GoneDrumming

I'm really impressed!!! Great job and thanks for sharing, I'm sure this is one technique that will be used many times here over the years!

Allright, if that can help someone to remove a darn bubble off again, that makes me happy!

Stick it up! Excited

[ ]s,

Jeffo.

1997 not-quite-vintage fully restored Pearl EX in Red Wine Finish
1965 Slingerland Deluxe Student Model Snare in Red Sparkle Finish. Now that's some vintage...
Posted on 15 years ago
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From jf_moreira

Hello.Anyone has an idea on how to straighten things out on this Pearl Export 1997 bass drum? Any hints on fixing it without any replacements?I'll take a closer look as soon as I finish the toms restorations and take this baby apart.Thanks.

This cannot be done......I knew Walt Johnson who was the prez for Pearl US when they just got introd here...

The pearl is cheaper then the better lines....The material got stretched out...

Even if you could get it back together you would probably sacrfice the shine and color....

You could try a low temperature iron.....PUT several towels on the iron and alum foil on the pearl. NOTE...to use in very short segments

DO THIS KNOWING It will probably not help...and will probably ruin the drum..

Frankly...You can but the pearl from a NY company.....

Posted on 14 years ago
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From lonecomic

This cannot be done......I knew Walt Johnson who was the prez for Pearl US when they just got introd here...The pearl is cheaper then the better lines....The material got stretched out...Even if you could get it back together you would probably sacrfice the shine and color....You could try a low temperature iron.....PUT several towels on the iron and alum foil on the pearl. NOTE...to use in very short segmentsDO THIS KNOWING It will probably not help...and will probably ruin the drum..Frankly...You can but the pearl from a NY company.....

Hello.

Did you see the pictures a few posts before? I managed to recover 90% of the original appearance. More than that on smaller areas. Used a weird-of-my-own technique that worked... : )

1997 not-quite-vintage fully restored Pearl EX in Red Wine Finish
1965 Slingerland Deluxe Student Model Snare in Red Sparkle Finish. Now that's some vintage...
Posted on 14 years ago
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From jf_moreira

Hello.Did you see the pictures a few posts before? I managed to recover 90% of the original appearance. More than that on smaller areas. Used a weird-of-my-own technique that worked... : )

I believe that lonecomic does not read any of the bodies of the threads he responds to... just reads the opening post and posts from there... don't know why. I read this thread while it was in progress in August, and I will probably be trying your technique on a repair that I botched back in March.

Same scenario regarding the wrap shrinking on me during repair.

Thanks

Kevin
Posted on 14 years ago
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