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How do you "market" yourself as a drummer?

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I have been both a front man and a side man. Let me tell you- I love being the drummer so much more than the front man. To me, if the drummer isn't driving the band, the asses don't shake!!!! Sure, the front man has to engage the crowd, but the music's gotta move!!!

I have never really marketed myself, per se. I have also gone months between gigs. But I do get a phone call from time to time to help finish one's demo, for example (I do have an arsenal of E-drums and samples which makes for a very easy to control drum sound for demos). Currently, I am with a band that's finally making it's moves out of the garage, so to speak.

I have also found that what is considered as a "good drummer" are the following traits: time keeping, staying in the pocket, and not over playing. I have to agree.

Yeah- I'm THAT guy!!!

Dead dogs like rusty fire hydrants!!!
Posted on 13 years ago
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craigs list /back page i actuality get work off it not always drumming but sometime background or contact extra work some church , parties, as a geezer

the age thing is not on my side good luck

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once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Posted on 13 years ago
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As touched on, networking is key. The old saying is "it's who you know", but in fact it's who knows you. And it can be quite passive, as simple as showing up at a local jam and letting people hear what you do. Most of the time, there are working players hanging around and participating, and even if they aren't looking for someone at the moment, they'll take the names & numbers of the players they like. I've done hundreds of gigs with a dozen groups as the result of innocently sitting-in at a small jam near my home. If possible, visit several jams a week on a regular basis. You'll build friendships and credibility without much effort, and it can pay off well beyond that scene.

You can try the various musician/drummer referral sites, I've signed up with more than a few, and actually got one response after a few years. But it netted a fun, decent-paying monthly gig whenever I'm home. Don't pay for such services though. I don't believe that they're any more effective than the free ones. Google 'musician referral los angeles' and you'll see the kind of sites that result. Substitute your city/metro, or simply try 'musician referral'.

At the risk of opening the door for non-drummers to post here, you might consider joining and posting in guitar, bass & keyboard forums, as they are the kind of players likely to hire you. However, knowing how cynical and merciless we forum types tend to be, you'd better be first-rate before you put yourself out there, or they'll beat you up for even trying.

I haven't used Craigslist for soliciting work, and I don't personally know anyone who's admitted using it, so I don't know if it's effective. Is it free to list? If so, it certainly couldn't hurt and is a good way to target the areas you want to work.

Also check out local weekly papers with free or cheap personal ads.

Make sure you have a good web site. MySpace, facebook, etc are nice and free, but they're not substitutes for web sites and should not be relied upon exclusively for a web presence. Get your own domain name, which is what 99.9% of pros online do. However don't ignore the value of the social/media networking sites, you can use all to your advantage.

The thing is, you never really know who's going to see you or your name out there, so make sure you've got good exposure. Nobody can hire you if they don't know who you are. And also make sure you treat every public playing opportunity - a local jam, for example - as an audition. It's not the time to cut loose, you can do that at home. Play a jam like you're playing a gig, and always be professional. Those are the guys who stand out, and get the gigs.

Good luck!

Bermuda

Posted on 13 years ago
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I think you read me wrong or my meds backfired lol Blues is my heart and soul music , it is the only music I am interested in and what i meant by that comment was if you are playing in a blues based music band just sit back and enjoy as you are at IMO the best place any drummer could be ,I don't care about marketing myself as long as i can play guitar driven blues does that make better sense ? Mr Purdie I love the blues I mean love to the point I have tunnel vision about music.... yes sad but my window on music is very small Blues baby..

and the comment about being a human metronome is the highest compliment I can give a drummer Guys that can just keep that beat no fancy fills no over playing have my highest respect and Ian paice to me is one of the very best along with Steve Ferrone from Tom Petty, Ringo Starr, Charlie watts, I just could never play that way I am just to busy of a person or my mind is just to busy mt self described playing style would be a cross between Kieth moon (when I was younger) and John Bonham, I play very heavy on the bass drum and try very hard to keep it simple these days but i still fill alot..

Posted on 13 years ago
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From Mike T

and the comment about being a human metronome is the highest compliment I can give a drummer Guys that can just keep that beat no fancy fills no over playing have my highest respect and Ian paice to me is one of the very best along with Steve Ferrone from Tom Petty, Ringo Starr, Charlie watts, I just could never play that way I am just to busy of a person or my mind is just to busy mt self described playing style would be a cross between Kieth moon (when I was younger) and John Bonham, I play very heavy on the bass drum and try very hard to keep it simple these days but i still fill alot..

Being a human metronome is more likely to get you a gig than being all over the place!!! Trust me- especially since lead guitar players don't like to be shown up, and the front man doesn't want or appreciate being shown up.

As long as the fills make sense and stay in time, there's nothing wrong with filling all of the time.

Yeah- I'm THAT guy!!!

Dead dogs like rusty fire hydrants!!!
Posted on 13 years ago
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Bermuda-

You bring up so many common-sense things!!! Those are things everyone who is even remotely serious about playing professionally need to do.

In my years of observing local, working musicians, I see so many people think that music is supposed to be "fun fun fun!!!" that they forget the rules of professionalism:

1) Show up on time

2) Don't be drunk

3) Don't be high

4) When in doubt, keep the beat and drive the music

5) Know your material backwards, forwards, and everywhere in between

6) Treat it like it's a job, 'cos it is!!!

For me, it's much more fun to be employed as a musician than unemployed. Guitar players and front men are fickle enough; why give them any reason to fire you sooner?!?

Thanks for your words of advice and encouragement!!!

Yeah- I'm THAT guy!!!

Dead dogs like rusty fire hydrants!!!
Posted on 13 years ago
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Mike - So sorry man! It's so hard sometimes to try to read the 'tone' in someone's comments when they're not right in front of you. Reading words on a page leaves way too many doors open for misinterpretation which is obviously what I did with your post. Again, my apologies for the misread.

Blues drummer eh? Turns out we're more 'brothers under the skin' than at first appears. Yes Sir

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 13 years ago
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Many years ago. I used to get bored by playing more than two blues tunes in a row. Then, I found out that, by virtually cutting all the things I was doing in half, the music came alive for me. I then started really liking the almost limitless bounds to playing drums with good blues musicians. Subtle nuances of a few notes color the music much more vividly than a barage of rat-a-tat-tatting. Smaller drum sets allow the drummer better opportunities to hone his craft by using a "keep it simple, stupid" approach.

No matter how far you push the envelope, it is still stationery.
Posted on 13 years ago
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From Purdie Shuffle

Mike - So sorry man! It's so hard sometimes to try to read the 'tone' in someone's comments when they're not right in front of you. Reading words on a page leaves way too many doors open for misinterpretation which is obviously what I did with your post. Again, my apologies for the misread.Blues drummer eh? Turns out we're more 'brothers under the skin' than at first appears. Yes SirJohn

No apology needed I know my posts are not always coherent lol be sure and check your PM's...

Posted on 13 years ago
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From leedybdp

Many years ago. I used to get bored by playing more than two blues tunes in a row. Then, I found out that, by virtually cutting all the things I was doing in half, the music came alive for me. I then started really liking the almost limitless bounds to playing drums with good blues musicians. Subtle nuances of a few notes color the music much more vividly than a barage of rat-a-tat-tatting. Smaller drum sets allow the drummer better opportunities to hone his craft by using a "keep it simple, stupid" approach.

You're a man after my own heart Leedy. After a lifetime of playing that is precisely the point I've reached with music. The old saw about "less is more" never has more validity than with playing the Blues. I also don't feel like I have to show everything I know how to play, every time I play. I've always gotten compliments from other drummers at open jams or gigs because they can see the choices I'm making, what I'm adding in or what I'm leaving out. I just want every note I play to count. To say what needs to be said in the music without ever dominating the conversation.

You 'get it'. I like that. Cool1

John - Slave to the Groove. Giving it whatever it is asking for...

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 13 years ago
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