Don't know much about the British stuff, but if it's a 'vintage' kit you're looking for, then I'd suggest you keep looking. Judging from the deep, (power) rack tom, I'd estimate the date to be 90s, possibly late 80s at best. Probably not even made in England by that date I would guess.

It`s after 80`s, and too far away to tell exactly, but I would lean twords Genista or Signia series by the lugs !i

These are definitely not vintage.

There is a discussion here, somewhere, about when vintage started. The conclusion was that vintage ends approx. in the middle of the 70's, latest.

Ralf

Endless discussion - with no sharp end!

Some drums will never be vintage - ever.

Others will, in some peoples opinion, be vintage almost from the day they are no longer made.

It seems most people think of the kits they couldn´t afford when they started out as the real vintage-stuff. For us middle-aged types, that means we often draw the line in the mid/late seventies......

I am of the firm conviction, that my late-model, british made 1990 Resonators are very much vintage drums. They were made the same way as 1960s Premiers, and most likely on much the same tools by some of the same people.

But I accept that other people disagree...

Jon

vintage has as much to do with anything as when u were born. my first drum kit was born in 1989. i was thirteen. if i could get back the 8 and 13 inch toms that came w my pearl export drum kit in mirror chrome when i got it at thirteen i would be proud as a peacock. i guess what im tryin to say is that the collector market is driven by nostalgia and money of course. when the next generation has enough dough and starts growin up they want what they remember. and i dont think some drums will never be collectible. just look at the people that grab up these cute but at best marginal quality 30 yr old m.i.j drum kits.. . . . . . old dude told my dad about his car club. whatever floats your boat.

The kit looks like an XPK (lacquer finish) from c.1997, these were made in England.

These MIJs you speak of.....I would agree that the quality was more on the entry-level side. At the same time, quality of these vary quite widely and the better stuff is indeed very good stuff. One more thing, correction - most that are discussed on here and collected are more like between 40 and 50 yrs old, having been made in the mid 60s to early 70s. A 30yr old drum is nothing too exciting compared to these, having been made in the 80s, which paled in comparison in the character / appeal department.

Sorry for the tangent there. In regards to your kit - yes, I would 2nd the motion....guessing that it is an XPK from the mid-late 90s. While not collectible, I had one of these and it served as a very good quality kit. The hardware was very strong, as was its chrome (Premier is known for great chrome). It was indeed made in England and likely is Birch/Eucalyptus/Birch. Good mid-level kit. I paid $800 for mine new in 1998. Too bad I could not see the coming trends, as if I could have waited, I could have had a used high-level kit for about the same money, starting once we crossed the line into this century. Of course, the deeper we have gotten into it, the better the market has become for buyers. The overall effect is that is is more affordable for us all, and for that I am grateful. Secondary effect is that we hold onto the higher-end stuff a bit more now as we do not want to lose $ on it due to today's market condition. Ooops...there I go again...off on another tangent!

Go Vintage MIJ!

An easy way to weed out the non vintage Prem kits is to look at the FT lugs...

The classic ones have 16 (or 20) "sharktooth" lugs (total) top and bottom...whereas the later ones have just 8 long lugs in the center of the drum...AKA Power lugs...