Hi, everyone! I'm new to this whole forum thing, and would like some help identifying and placing a value on drums and hardware that my husband is selling. He played for a number of years, a couple of our kids took it up, and now the poor drums sit lonely and forlorn waiting to be played again. What I know is this: they are Premier drums made in England, all but the snare are black enamel with chrome hardware and unfinished wood interiors. There is a bass drum, a floor tom, and two mounted toms. The snare is chrome and 14" chrome. All the hardware is Ludwig, the bass pedal is a Ludwig Speed King, and the throne is a Rogers heavy-duty (in need of reupholstering). The cymbals are all Zildjian, and there are a crash, a mini cup ride, and high-hat cymbals; there is also a cow bell. The logo on the drums puts it in the late 60's or 70's somewhere, I think. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
help identifying drums and establishing value
can you post some pictures? i am sure some people on here would be intrested in helping you
I'm working on resizing the pix so I can upload them. Thanks for your response!
Hello, again. I think I've finally managed to get pictures to work. Not sure about the quality - hope it comes through fine.
Now, I'm rather new to vintage drums myself, but this reminds me of the 303 outfits I saw in the catalogs. In that case I suspect the snare might be a Premier 2000 (since you mention it's chrome, which would fit with the 2000, and also because those came with the 303). Do you have pictures of the snare? (Also including the snare strainer would make it easy :P).
I think I see the snare stand next to the floor, right? That one (the snare stand) is not Ludwig, it is a Premier. I would say Lokfast, but again, I am fairly new to this myself.
The badges being 70's seem right to me. From what I know, they started adding serial numbers to the badges in 1970.
My Premiers have date stamps inside the shells, I am not sure whether they did that on all their shells, but you might want to have a look. Not sure whether it's guaranteed the correct date, but it could be a good indication.
But from the catalogs, I would say early 70's, because I don't see any of the later 70's sets using those tom mounts. And the serials being there makes it at least 1970.
That's all I can say for now... Sure do wish sometimes I was a bit older, so that I wouldn't have to tell things from catalogs and what other people say/write :P.
Oh, and I can't say anything about the value, I'm afraid. Even if it was only the shells (the cymbals might add value, but I don't know much about those). I'm completely in the dark on that subject.
But I'm sure some more experienced people will chime in and fill in/correct me :P.
I must say, I do like that bass drum head :D.
You might also want to post this in the "Non-USA" drum section, too.
"Nietzsche is dead." -God
I think the floor tom is a later version of the rest of the kit. Different lugs. Where is this set located?
They often had different lugs on the floor as far as I know, compared to the other shells (just like it is on this set). So I wouldn't think it's from a different time. Really cool lugs, both of them, imo.
But O-Lugs is right (of course), the people at the Non-USA section probably know everything about this.
She sure knows a lot of drummer's terms for being a "drummerswife".......
O.K. - here goes (I know the terminology because I've been married to this drummer for 30 years - picked up a few things except how to play well). By the way, love the quote from God in response to Nietsche - made me laugh! The snare stand is, indeed, Premier, as MrTurd pointed out (nice name - ewwww); the snare on the drum is made up of two sets of individually-tunable wires (with set screws), as well as the whole unit being adjustable. There are 12 wires on each set for a total of 24 wires, there are only five intact wires left (it needs new snares, obviously!). Am enclosing a picture of the snare drum. The drum set is located in northeastern Ohio, living in a state of dejection. I'll look into posting this to the non-USA forum, also (I hope they don't have any weird requirements for picture sizing!). Thanks, again, for all the input.
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