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Help Identification of older marching snare - Slingerland? Last viewed: 8 hours ago

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I am out of my area of expertise with this particular project.

I am needing some assistance with identifying this drum. Unfortunately the attached pictures are all I have to work with at the moment.

To me the most interesting feature is the use of L-angle pieces mounted directly to the wood hoops for tensioning the heads. The tube rods offer single tension, which was also not particularly common in early marching drums. There are also many more than the typical eight tension rods per side. I keep counting 15, but hope that I am just not seeing the 16th.

The only drum I can find that had more than eight tension rods per side (it has ten) and used the L-angle piece in lieu of clips or claws is a 1930s Slingerland Artists' wood hoop snare that Mark Cooper has shown on his website. I include the picture of an advertisement which is found at http://www.coopersvintagedrums.com/newslinghistory.htm (about 20% down the page).

There seems to be some interesting artwork near the vent hole, but I cannot get a straight-on shot of it.

Any assistance in identifying this drum will be appreciated. I will not see the drum in person for a while and I these are the only pictures available right now (I know that pictures of the throw/strainer and the interior of the shell would help a lot.)

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Posted on 7 years ago
#1
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KC

Looks like a Duplex to me. I have a few with the same hardware but smaller depth. I'll have to find a picture to post for you. Your right a picture of the throw will be very telling.

Michael

No Guru - I just love collecting & learning about vintage drums!

Some of my favorites from the kits in the collection
58 WFL New Yorker Blue Sparkle
67 Ludwig Hollywood Red Psychedelic
69 Ludwig Standard Red Ruby Strata
70's Ludwig BOP "Ringo" Kit

A few of my favorite snares
20's Leedy Black Elite
51 Leedy & Ludwig Knob Tension
58 WFL Buddy Rich Classic Blue Sparkle
63 Walberg & Auge Sea Blue Agave Green Pearl
66 Leedy Shelly Manne Blue Agate Pearl
Posted on 7 years ago
#2
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From CTMichaelV

KC Looks like a Duplex to me. I have a few with the same hardware but smaller depth. I'll have to find a picture to post for you. Your right a picture of the throw will be very telling. Michael

Thanks for the quick response. I have an older Duplex lower level snare but it looks nothing like this marcher.

Collecting information about the following for ongoing research projects:
Gretsch drums with serial numbers,
Ludwig Keystone and B/O badge drums with serial numbers and date stamps,
Ludwig Standards from 1968-73, and
Ludwigs with paper labels from 1971-72
www.GretschDrumDatingGuide.com
Posted on 7 years ago
#3
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In the first two pictures is a clue. You can see at the bottom of the picture on the table, the hand key for the throw. You can also see that the throw is at the top, attached to the hoop.

Iv`e seen that here before, both, that key and half and half.

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 7 years ago
#4
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Now that I know that it is a Duplex drum, I found a few drums with some similar characteristics. Thanks again for the ID help.

Collecting information about the following for ongoing research projects:
Gretsch drums with serial numbers,
Ludwig Keystone and B/O badge drums with serial numbers and date stamps,
Ludwig Standards from 1968-73, and
Ludwigs with paper labels from 1971-72
www.GretschDrumDatingGuide.com
Posted on 7 years ago
#5
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From KCDrumDad

Now that I know that it is a Duplex drum, I found a few drums with some similar characteristics. Thanks again for the ID help.

Looks like you have a deeper but same year as the middle one.

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 7 years ago
#6
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This drum is at a live auction out of town. Unless someone tells me that it would be worth it to make a drive and then spend most of a day waiting to find out if anyone else is bidding on it, I will likely pass.

Collecting information about the following for ongoing research projects:
Gretsch drums with serial numbers,
Ludwig Keystone and B/O badge drums with serial numbers and date stamps,
Ludwig Standards from 1968-73, and
Ludwigs with paper labels from 1971-72
www.GretschDrumDatingGuide.com
Posted on 7 years ago
#7
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KC

I absolutely love the Duplex I have. With a bit of work it cleaned up beautifully into one of the more interesting and beautiful drums in my collection. If its not a long drive, I would say go for it ! Mine is similar if not the same as the first picture you posted of the 3-concert style snares.

Michael

No Guru - I just love collecting & learning about vintage drums!

Some of my favorites from the kits in the collection
58 WFL New Yorker Blue Sparkle
67 Ludwig Hollywood Red Psychedelic
69 Ludwig Standard Red Ruby Strata
70's Ludwig BOP "Ringo" Kit

A few of my favorite snares
20's Leedy Black Elite
51 Leedy & Ludwig Knob Tension
58 WFL Buddy Rich Classic Blue Sparkle
63 Walberg & Auge Sea Blue Agave Green Pearl
66 Leedy Shelly Manne Blue Agate Pearl
Posted on 7 years ago
#8
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Thanks for the guidance. I went to the auction, which was about an hour away. After three hours (and some spending on some other items that I did not really need) they got to the drum. I has the high bidder. I will post pictures later, but it is a 9" depth, 17" diameter 15 lug Duplex drum. Those are some pretty strange characteristics for someone who normally deals with drums from the 1960s. The drum is missing two tension rods and the badge. Some nice inlay around the vent hole and some damage to the outer ply in one spot. I am pretty happy.

Attached is one more picture that the auction company put on its facebook page before the auction.

Collecting information about the following for ongoing research projects:
Gretsch drums with serial numbers,
Ludwig Keystone and B/O badge drums with serial numbers and date stamps,
Ludwig Standards from 1968-73, and
Ludwigs with paper labels from 1971-72
www.GretschDrumDatingGuide.com
Posted on 7 years ago
#9
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Great looking drum Rick. Love the inlay. Nice find!

Posted on 7 years ago
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