Haymans with a history... - Page 1

Hi all -

I've got a couple of Haymans (13X9, 20X14) here that have been sitting in my collection for a few years now in the hopes I'd stumble across a decently priced floor tom, but that has yet to happen.

I got these two drums a number of years back from a gent who is the "foremost orchestral transcriber of Zappa music" in the world (not sure what the competition is for that). Anyhow, he'd acquired them as a 3-piece (losing the floor tom along the way somewhere), having been told that they'd been used by Ainsley Dunbar when he recorded with Zappa. Now, I have no documentation of this whatsoever, and I don't know that this would add any value. But interesting to me nonetheless as I'm not a huge Zappa guy, but do love Bowie, who Dunbar also played Haymans with.

Anyhow, the poor drums had their wraps stripped off decades ago - luckily with no shell damage - and were then painted in this hideous light-smurf color. Lugs and tom hoops are all in very good shape chrome-wise; the knuckle-cruncher tom mount is fully functional and losing some chrome. Bass hoops are structurally sound but are missing the inlay, and the "Vibrasonic" coatings (heavy white/cream paint, like 60s Ludwig interiors) have started to craze.

I'm debating between trying to move these as-is, or stripping the smurf paint off and either doing a clear coat -- depending on the look of the wood -- for a bit of a Camco look, or at least recovering and holding onto them.

Would love some ideas as to value of the drums as-is, if the possible history would have any bearing on an asking price, and any tips/ideas for refinishing.

Thanks!

From schenk

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Hi all - I've got a couple of Haymans (13X9, 20X14) here that have been sitting in my collection for a few years now in the hopes I'd stumble across a decently priced floor tom, but that has yet to happen.I got these two drums a number of years back from a gent who is the "foremost orchestral transcriber of Zappa music" in the world (not sure what the competition is for that). Anyhow, he'd acquired them as a 3-piece (losing the floor tom along the way somewhere), having been told that they'd been used by Ainsley Dunbar when he recorded with Zappa. Now, I have no documentation of this whatsoever, and I don't know that this would add any value. But interesting to me nonetheless as I'm not a huge Zappa guy, but do love Bowie, who Dunbar also played Haymans with.Anyhow, the poor drums had their wraps stripped off decades ago - luckily with no shell damage - and were then painted in this hideous light-smurf color. Lugs and tom hoops are all in very good shape chrome-wise; the knuckle-cruncher tom mount is fully functional and losing some chrome. Bass hoops are structurally sound but are missing the inlay, and the "Vibrasonic" coatings (heavy white/cream paint, like 60s Ludwig interiors) have started to craze.I'm debating between trying to move these as-is, or stripping the smurf paint off and either doing a clear coat -- depending on the look of the wood -- for a bit of a Camco look, or at least recovering and holding onto them.Would love some ideas as to value of the drums as-is, if the possible history would have any bearing on an asking price, and any tips/ideas for refinishing.Thanks!

schenk ,if i were you I would keep the drums, probably go with a stain, wrapping them may make for a tight fit with the heads, if you are in the UK you should be able to find a floor tom? also not being able to prove that Dunbar owned them or used them, until you can do that some how, they are just regular haymans, but don't forget bill bruford used haymans also??Jumping2