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Gretsch 70's kit - what do I have

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Help, I am not a drummer but I am in custody of a 70's Gretsch kit and would like to know what I have. Can anyone help. It may be a load of rubbish but it may not any info please.

Octagonal badge with elongated T – made between 1971 – 1978.

Natural Maple. - Sequential model/serial numbers

7 ½ x 11” Tom

9 x 13” Tom

12 x 15” Floor Tom

18 x 16 ½” Base

14” Zildjian – Custom Dark K - Hi Hat

18” Zildian Medium thin - Crash

15” Paiste 2002 - Hi Hat

16” Paiste 2000 - Crash

18” Paiste 2000 - Crash

Snare Pearl Custom Classic

The Hi Hat stand is Ludwig

Posted on 14 years ago
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I had this set thruout most of my touring career,except with a 22" bass and in Blue Spruce stain.If you are looking for a value,it is not straightforward,as it has been altered with Pearl hardware.They ARE sought after shells and the 18" bass is desirable,BUT they are concert toms.This is a niche set-I'd shoot for the $750-$1000 range.Altered drums,no Gretsch snare,concert toms BUT good shells,good cymbals,and look to be in good condition.It's a nice players package deal.

Posted on 14 years ago
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What the heck are people thinking when they put on those hideous Pearl mounts? They are horrible to work with. Even with cymbals, that kit would be working hard to reach the bottom number of that estimate.

Posted on 14 years ago
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I'll tell you from experience-I know EXACTLY what they were thinking.Gretsch's hardware in this period was weak at best.I loved those drums,but the floor tom would fall over due to loosening leg bracket screws,the bass drum would do the same on the spurs,the tom mount had little to no adjustment.But the drum tone itself-very nice.The owner was probably not thinking of future value-just going to work and not fighting with your set.

Posted on 14 years ago
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From teverson-sr

I'll tell you from experience-I know EXACTLY what they were thinking.Gretsch's hardware in this period was weak at best.I loved those drums,but the floor tom would fall over due to loosening leg bracket screws,the bass drum would do the same on the spurs,the tom mount had little to no adjustment.But the drum tone itself-very nice.The owner was probably not thinking of future value-just going to work and not fighting with your set.

This Gretsch hardware at this period was a joke, you would fasten down the toms and the t bolt would dent the tom post, you never really knew if it was fastened on to start with "AH" the memories!!!,Kleening

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 14 years ago
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There was other hardware available than that hideous Pearl stuff. I'm just saying....

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I'm with mcjnic here. I know people weren't thinking about collector's value back then, and I'm all for functional hardware, but that Pearl stuff isn't pretty and it's tough to position. Nowadays, of course, we'd just use suspension mounts and avoid messing with the shells, but back in the day, there were still better options. Tama had great hardware in the 80s.

As for putting a value on this kit: that's a tough one. The Pearl hardware, and the fact that they are concert toms, hurt the resale value. But they're still Gretsch drums. And hey, if Gretsch concert toms are good enough for Phil Collins, they're more good enough for me. I'm not sure what they'd sell for, to be honest.

Me, I'd be tempted to convert them to double-headed toms, remove the Pearl hardware, fill in the holes, and rewrap them to cover the work. Since they've already been modified, I'd think the standard reasons not to mess with a drum don't apply. Others might disagree with me.

I don't know if you'd make back the cost of modifying them if you went to sell them -- Gretsch lugs and die-cast rims aren't cheap, and the wrap would be a couple hundred dollars or more -- but you'd have a great player's set of Gretsch drums.

For me, the bottom line is that these drums have some issues, but all Gretsch drums are special in my eyes. I like 'em.

Kits:
1950s Gretsch Name Band in Midnight Blue Pearl (13/16/22/14sn)
1965/66 Ludwig Club Dates rewrapped in Black Diamond Pearl (12/15/20)
Posted on 14 years ago
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Very nice drums!

I really like the Thistle on the bd - never seen that before (I'm into horticulture haha).

Would you mind posting a clear close-up of the badge(s)?

As said here before.....the full Vintage value has already been tampered with so - yes - I'd put reso heads on the toms there. Era die-cast rims & and lugs all around. You have some very nice shells there it looks like. Any USA Gretsch shells are usually worth bringing out to full potential. Personally I'd make the BD naked and mount the toms on some sturdy tri-pod stands. But that's just me.

They look like nice drums.........they're not 'a load of rubbish' I would think.

From MsSixtiesChic

Help, I am not a drummer but I am in custody of a 70's Gretsch kit and would like to know what I have. Can anyone help. It may be a load of rubbish but it may not any info please.Octagonal badge with elongated T – made between 1971 – 1978.Natural Maple. - Sequential model/serial numbers7 ½ x 11” Tom9 x 13” Tom12 x 15” Floor Tom18 x 16 ½” Base 14” Zildjian – Custom Dark K - Hi Hat18” Zildian Medium thin - Crash15” Paiste 2002 - Hi Hat16” Paiste 2000 - Crash18” Paiste 2000 - CrashSnare Pearl Custom ClassicThe Hi Hat stand is Ludwig

Posted on 14 years ago
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