id bet anything is possible but the configuration i remember was all cast or even forged im still looking for a band pic thankx for al the interest

I live about 2 minutes from where these pedals were originaly made. Ive talked to people who said Bob would come right to your house and bring two or three pedals for you to try. This was back in the sixties. Nobody ever said anyting about a hihat.

Kind of close Mikey, but not quite. I thought someone else brought this up at one point....but this is a "chain music store" hi-hat pedal and YES it WAS made by Camco. Camco would do this for certain larger music stores back in the day.

If there was a "Ghost" hi-hat offered, it was pre-Ludwig era, made by the Ghost company in Springfield, Oregon. I've never seen one of these either, much like everyone else and would also love to see one as that would be one rare find.

With that said, I can also believe that there might be some discrepancy in Jaghog's memory as well....I mean it was a long time ago and sometimes memories get confused amongst gear owned over the years. If he can come up with a picture of the stand to confirm his memory that would be great to show that it did exist (not that I'm saying that it didn't)

With so many Ghost pedals produced, one would assume that they produced other products as well, but.....the only way to confirm would be through old ads or catalogs or through a former employee that worked in the manufacturing plant that made the stuff. I personally have only ever heard of the Ghost pedal.

there are somethings you just dont forget and that day was one one of them

we actually had to have a co signer all was documented, quite a band messiah was that was our group and believe me we really looked at a lot of stuff this store was a different type with all out of ordinary inventory, back then it was tuff to find new clear dan armstrongs and trainer 21 inch reflex cabinets , also these were not old or used pedals they were new the ghost co was distributing out of Springfield were they were built and it mite of been a proto type it was not part of ludwig co till 1976/78 they were still a independent drum hardware co.and sold under there own label till they were bought out i know my equipment and say what you will that always bothered me as i did not think nothing of it at the time but now that was the only one i have ever seen .wait all you doubting thomas i will find a band pic my carelessness lost it but im sure there are some proof i think my freind still has all the records he keeps everything the base player is a preacher now i guess iron man was too much for him so till then adieu ........

I dunno. A ghost hi hat would be a very interesting project. I haven't seen any other clock spring hi hat pedals, and don't have the mechanical experience to imagine one.

Would it have two of those canister/barrels to contain the clock springs? If so, it would certainly have a memorable shape--which is just not answering my memory's call.

Of course I have only ever seen one bd pedal with clock springs and that was a Ghost, so -- as I say-- I dunno.

That said, no mention of a hi hat on Billy Rhythm's Ghost pages:

http://www.billyrhythm.com/drums/ghost/index.html

Back in the day, hi-hat stands came from the drum manufacturers. So did bass drum pedals, with the exception of W & A, from whom many manufacturers sourced some stands and other hardware components.

For the record, the first "boutique" hi-hat stand I personally remember was the Cappelle stand, and there was a matching kick pedal to go with it. These were also sold under the Orange brand name (same company that makes the guitar amps; they dabbled in drums for awhile), and later sold under the Pro-Mark name. Other than that, I cannot remember ANY hi-hat stand that had clockspring action, and until the Cappelle pedal came along, no one else had an extension spring pedal, only compression spring. To tell you the truth, I don't think the clockspring system would work well on a hi-hat stand. First of all, the whole pull rod/cymbal mechanism is very "massy". Secondly, a conversion system would need to be employed to convert linear motion of the rod into rotary motion for the clockspring, most likely a rack-and-pinion type system, adding complexity, more mass, additional friction points, and in general, turning it into a Rube Goldberg device.

from what i remember it had a church steeple like base and some sort of cam assembly i just remember how heavy duty it was sorry no pics yet still looking have ol band members looking too

it was not clockspring