Well, just a question can you email me a bigger photo?? photo is to small for my eye's..But what is see on set on the bottom of page by the bass drum pedal i would say they are made by pearl,in the 60's late pearl was making pedals like that if that's black paint on top of foot board.. Bass drum muffler yes pearl i have one,Snare drum stand is made by pearl [[i can see that ]]these stands were sold with all of the names that pearl sold in the 60s..I can't see the floor tom leg mounts at all but they almost look like copys of the 60 Ludwig club date ones they used a spring with tab.The cymbal mount rod bent like that also leads me to pearl..Pearl used these on the lower end drums that they made...Mikey

John, although I would still really like to see a close up pic of one of your rack or floor tom lugs, I also think your WMP set is Pearl made.

This thread, http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=4891 shows a set that we know is an older, complete Pearl set. It has the straight legs and floor tom leg mounts that match yours and the sets in the La Boz catalogs. Has anyone ever seen a set that we knew to be Star made with these leg mounts?

I'm interested to hear what O-bop and Ralf might have to say.

How's this one? Enough detail?

Yes! Thanks for the pic, John. We have another drum in common, and this confirms what we were both thinking.

I have a snare drum and 13" rack tom in WMP with the name 'Jazz Master' on them. The pics below are of the rack tom. The rack tom has a pipe mount bracket on it, so I assumed it was Pearl made. However, I wasn't 100% sure because the Sling copy lugs were sort of in between the lighter weight Star Sling copys and the later Pearl Sling copy lugs with the wider gap on top (like the ones on my Tempros, for instance.)

The mounting bracket seems to be exactly the same as yours. Does the large washer and nut on the inside of the tom look similar to yours? And it has the Stick-Saver copy hoops.

The 'Jazz Master' badges on these are just foil stickers. Not pieces of alluminum or plastic. The corners are bent. It's amazing that they have stayed on these drums for this long. I'll bet your set had sticker badges just like these, could have even been the same name, and it explains why they are unmarked today with no evidence that badges had ever been on them.

To me, it's the lugs tell the stories on these drums. At this point I am back to thinking that there was more than one foundry for the metal parts. I could still be wrong, of course, but my 2 foundry theory stems from the fact that the quality of the metal cast for the lugs seems to differ between the lugs on Pearl made and Star made drums: It seems that the quality of the metal cast for the Pearl lugs was better than the quality of the Star lugs. Not to mention the slight differences in design on the outside, and inside, of the lugs. (This theory is based on my limited experience with the few examples that I own.)

Anyway, being that your floor tom has the same leg mounts as the early example red sparkle Pearl set, which are also consistent with the La Boz catalog scans, I think we have finally, and conclusively, identified the maker of your WMP set as Pearl.