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For $19.99 at Goodwill... Sonor?

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Found these 8" and 10" concert toms at Goodwill for 20 bucks today. A very yellowed marine pearl wrap and calfskin heads, which are garbage unfortunately.

My first assumption was that they are a Japanese Sonor ripoff, but after looking around a bit I'm wondering if they're genuine Sonors. They have slot head bolts, nice looking rims and Sonor-style lug casings, but they're made of phenolic or masonite and seem to have the bolt thread that PDP uses currently, which I've heard is the same one that some cheapo 60's Japanese drums used.

Anyway, they're a bit rough as seen in the pics. I'm considering routing the bottoms and getting another set of lugs, but maybe it's not worth it.

Sorry about the iPhone pics. If I spend any time cleaning these up, I'll post better photos.

What do you guys think? Who made these drums?

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Posted on 11 years ago
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They look like Roxy drums made in germany in the 50's-60's..

I know that the lugs look like Sonor but i dont recall Sonor every doing a silver paint inside the shells...A better close-up of the T-rod would tell me if iam right or wrong..

If the T-rod is rounded around the top its Roxy,if the T-rods and flat and rounded on top Sonor.

Also the T-rods if Sonor are 1/4 20 thread--Roxy rods are 4.5 metric thread.....Mikey

I just checked the last photo and made it bigger the T-rods are Roxy not Sonor..

Posted on 11 years ago
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Those are TRIXON bongos.

Posted on 11 years ago
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Circa 1956...right?

"Always make sure your front bottom BD lugs clear the ground!"
Posted on 11 years ago
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The T-Rods are totally flat on top, and after comparing them, the lugs are not exactly like Sonor's, they aren't as long and have a slightly different pattern on the sides. They just look similar from a distance.

I took the heads off, and the 10" drum has a masonite reinforcing ring which forms half the bearing edge. The smaller drum has a plastic ring around the top which forms the entire bearing edge. Strange. It has a chip out of it, which I'm going to fix with some epoxy.

The other strange part of this drum is the rims, which look very nice, and are not a shape that I've ever seen before. They're triple flanged but the top flange folds all the way over, and the juts for the holes are almost triangular.

60's Gretsch Progressive Jazz Green Sparkle
'61 Slingerland Bop Kit Sea Green Rewrap
Round Badge Bop Kit Clone Red Sparkle
'67 Pearl President 13/16/22 Red Oyster Pearl
Posted on 11 years ago
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These are Trixon from about 1960. The plastic connector, became the standard union for the 5 concert toms in a Speedfire set, afterwhich they showed upon Bongos and Timbales too.

Posted on 11 years ago
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Bucky and Calfskin are fully right --- that's Trixon.

Masonite bongos shells were not as rarebirds in Europe 50 - 80's.

Also Tacton sometimes have used these Trixon lugs during 1961-1966 from Rimmel foundry workshop --- he used them by the same way as a Trixon throwoff system on Tacton snares of the same era.

George.

Posted on 11 years ago
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These, by the way, were called Timbales by Trixon-------alto and tenor. They also had a 3 piece set, which included a 6 1/4" soprano. When paired as the 8" and the 6 1/4" , they were called Bongos, with overdrawn hoops or Timbales , if the hoops were high.

The composite shells were used for these and sometimes for the concert toms ,of the Speedfire kits. Curiously, the same size shells , showed up as double headed toms, with 2 mufflers but made of European Beech instead.

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