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Flat Rides - What`s Your Opinion of Them?

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From Rik_Everglade

I sold one that I regret selling, a Bosphorus 19" flat ride, and I now use a 20" K con. Bosphorus had a most wonderful smokey sizzle, and a really cool crash sound. My K con isn't so much sizzle, but lots of smokey sounds, and it too crashes nicely. In low volume situations, these "crash" sounds are a great fit for the right room.It's fun to hammer on these, as you play harder, they don't necessarily get a correspondingly louder sound from them, the energy just goes into more wobble...no bell to focus the energy into sound.

You mean one of these?

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Posted on 8 years ago
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From hardbat

Another very pretty flat ride, perhaps paradoxically, is the Paiste 2002. It was recommended to me 30 years ago by a well-respected local jazz drummer, and I picked one up for practically nothing. Thin, sparkly, but with lots of nice dark undertones. And very quiet, nice for really light trio work. I used it on a trio demo tape years ago with the great pianist Jessica Williams, and she loved the sound. Unfortunately, I don't see any up on eBay right now.The main drawback of flat rides is that they are sort of one-trick ponies. They can have a very sweet ride tone for keeping time, but hitting them any other way doesn't do much. I like to mix in crash strokes while riding, and that doesn't really work with a flat ride because they, well, they don't crash (this is most apparent when recording, although it can be ok live). And of course there is no bell to hit. So you have to really like it's "ping" sound, because that's pretty much all it can do. I use mine only in the very lightest of situations. Oh, and they are great for a practice kit or practice pad kit because the neighbors are unlikely to hear it :) In fact, that's where my 2002 flat is right now.

Totally agree. If you like pinging only then they are perfect. I have a 20" Avedis (probably 60s, I can't really work it out) which I used to use all the time, but I always had to have another regular bell ride on the go as well, just for the sound variations, bell on Latin tunes, crashing etc. I really love the flat rides, but you need more than just ping!

"Ah, I see you have the machine that goes 'ping!'"

Posted on 8 years ago
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From pgm554

You mean one of these?

I think mine was an earlier model and didn't have the raw stripes. But was a great one!

Posted on 8 years ago
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I've had a few. There was an 18" Agop Vezir (I think - lathed top, unlathed bottom) that sounded lovely, but was quieter than a church ****. There was a scummy old A 18" with a ton of rivets that was just too heavy and loud, just sounded like hitting the bell on a fairly heavy ride over and over. Had and regrettably sold an 18" 2002. Currently have a pre-serial 20" 602 and a 20" Sound Creation Mellow Ride. Out of all of them, the 2002 sounded the most like an idealized "Paiste flat" would - all sweet, crystalline ping-a-ting. Better than the 602, even.

But the "best" "flat", in that it sounds like a flat, but is crashable and has a (very difficult to aim for) bell, is the Mellow. It's a real peach.

ETA: I didn't know it would edit out the common word for the end result of a rich, bean-filled meal. Please be aware it wasn't any of the other 4-letter words that you aren't really supposed to do in church, either.

Posted on 8 years ago
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I have an 18" Paiste Traditional Flat Ride. Definitely a very quiet cymbal. I only bring it to gigs which require the quietest possible playing.

Posted on 8 years ago
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Agree, I've only ever played on a paiste alpha flat ride, i do really like them for quiet small jazz band scenarios, I only ever use one when it's someone else's, it's just that when you add more players in the band then it doesn't work ( for me) also your playing along and then bandleader pulls out a Latin tune and I'm like whoa where's the bell! The other musos might not realise it's the cymbal not the drummer at fault! , sigh, but for small band jazz with all the ride patterns you can't beat em.

I love the jazz era
Posted on 8 years ago
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