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Elevated Bass Drums?

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It very well may increase the resonance of the drum, but, at the same time, bass drums are usually muffled some way. Therefore, the tilting method to increase resonance might be stifled by the muffling. Just a thought.

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Posted on 15 years ago
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Interesting Points made so far.

The smaller diameter BD always seems to function

better off the floor. (Chin in the wind, so to speak )

I keep the lug casings off the rug by a 1/2 inch or so for

symmetry. ( Too many nights of Rogers catalogs when I

was younger )

Reality is that my older DW 5000's mounting screws bang into

the footboard if the angle isn't "just so".

Seriously.

Hmmmm

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Posted on 15 years ago
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From O-Lugs

It very well may increase the resonance of the drum, but, at the same time, bass drums are usually muffled some way. Therefore, the tilting method to increase resonance might be stifled by the muffling. Just a thought.

I liken it to people who tighten the snare basket so that it chokes the snare. Yes, most people muffle their snare in some way, but you get a fuller (or more importantly, different) sound, pre-muffling, when you don't use the snare basket to clamp down on the snare. An EMAD can sound good on a bass drum, but it can sound WAY better if the drum has no toms mounted to it and is elevated slightly off the ground, and had an intact resonant head--you get the full sound of the drum being EMAD-treated, versus an already-muffled-somewhat drum sound being treated with the foam rings.

It all comes down to preference, and experimenting to find out what works best for YOU...

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Posted on 15 years ago
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Slightly elevated at the front as previously mentioned increases traction and resonance. I have a hardcore buddy who refuses to have any hardware... tom mounts, leg mounts or spurs mounted on the bass except for t-rods and lugs!

A totally virgin bass gives the best "BOOM" for your buck.

~K

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Posted on 15 years ago
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How would you hold the bass drum without spurs, a cradle? wouldn't that muffle the drums shell?

Posted on 15 years ago
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He swears by the cradle which only contacts the shell at each end on the bottom so, there is no piercing of the wood.

I guess to really test the efficacy of any bass drum mounting system and it's effect on resonance you would have to actually listen to different set-ups, cradle vs. spurs, tom mounts, no tom mounts, spurs, no spurs and see if there is an audible and appreciable difference in sound frequency or timbre and rangeEye Ball

~K

"It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing..."
Posted on 15 years ago
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From lucky

How would you hold the bass drum without spurs, a cradle? wouldn't that muffle the drums shell?

There are ways to get around that. You can get a cradle that works like a RIMS mount, only contacting the tension rods on the underside of the bass drum. You can get some of those "legs" that attach to the bass drum hoops. I've even seen a bass drum cradle that consisted of wires supported by a drum rack--the drum was totally free-floating, being held in place by the kick drum pedal!

Yes, a totally virgin shell has insane resonance. The bass drum spurs take away a lot of it, as does any more hardware attached to the shell. It comes down to what is convenient for you vs. the sound you like. If you like to mount your toms off the bass drum, and don't mind the resonance that is lost (or, don't know any different and are fine with your sound...), then all is right with the world!

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Posted on 15 years ago
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I play in a drum corps that has multiple bass drums carried by RIMS style harnesses that allow full resonance. Rudimental drum corps bass lines with 5 separate drums 18, 20, 22, 24, 28, 32 sound incredible when they carry a melody on the bottom end...

~K

"It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing..."
Posted on 15 years ago
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From kellyj

I play in a drum corps that has multiple bass drums carried by RIMS style harnesses that allow full resonance. Rudimental drum corps bass lines with 5 separate drums 18, 20, 22, 24, 28, 32 sound incredible when they carry a melody on the bottom end...~K

Like so, yes?

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Posted on 15 years ago
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Yes, Just like that !Walking

Looks like the Swiss National drum line?

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnd9y2B5zUw[/ame]

Check out the Chicago Cavaliers rudi bass line. These guys can execute rudiments as well as snare drummers yet split the rudiments betwen them for a musical effect and to support the melody of the brass.

Oh! the topic was elevating bass drums :)

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Posted on 15 years ago
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