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Edgware Beatmaster ID

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Hi all.

I've been doing a bit of research and I think I've got a Boosey & Hawkes Edgware Beatmaster drum kit. I've put some photos below.

The kit comprises of:

Snare 14"x5" snare drum (Says inside 1965 in pen)

Tom-Tom 12"x8"

Floor Tom 16"x16" (Serial Number 86451)

Bass Drum 20"x13" (Serial Number 88604)

None of the drums have a manufacturer plate on them but have holes as though they have been removed.

Could someone possibly either confirm or deny my suspicions that it is indeed the kit I have? Is the date inside the snare drum likely to be accurate? Does anyone know anything else about the history of this kit?

Photos can be found here.

Posted on 11 years ago
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I can check further but from the shape of the badge, pin holes, I think more likely a Stratford Besson Shaftesbury kit------which were identical to the Edgware Beatmaster, anyway. The Edgware badge , I think had only 2 pins but because the word Besson was tacked down below the ford part of Stratford, there was a 3rd pin on those badges, on the right hand side.

The snare throwoff is a little different. I've seen one like that before, possibly on Ajax but it is an upgrade from the norm on those, with the nice long handle.

Posted on 11 years ago
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If you could have a look for me that would be amazing! Any information is most useful.

Posted on 11 years ago
#3
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I excavated the one Edgware drum I have and also managed to find the spare badge I have. Both only have two pins . The cast white metal Ajax badge only has two pins as well. I think Stratford Besson Shaftesbury , is your kit. The Stratford Besson catalogue is identical to the Edgware catalogue. Boosey&Hawkes and Besson( London) were head to head competitors in the British brass and woodwind markets. They would have had well established rival dealerships as well, each one pushing either the Edgware or Stratford brand. When B&H acquired Besson on 1948 , it probably made sense to keep the brand loyalty and rather than bring Ajax or Edgware drums into Besson dealerships, they just badged Edgware drums as Stratford Besson but otherwise they were identical. The date in the drum seems correct to me because drums of this type were being produced then but it would take a serial # to know for sure.

Posted on 11 years ago
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Unfortunately I couldn't see a serial number in either the snare or tom-tom. It seems that only the floor tom and bass drum have them, which seems a bit odd to me. I expect they're probably in the same era.

I think I've got the original hardware kicking around somewhere too (or from memory it looks similar to the brochure image anyway) I might be looking to sell this kit as it hasn't been set up for years and is taking up quite a bit of space. I can't see anywhere online with values for it though.

Posted on 11 years ago
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value would depend on where you are and unfortunately without the badges, the value is depressed a lot. they are nice vintage drums but only might garner interest in the U.K.

----also , they would be considered an entry level kit , so it would be hard to realize the same value as if they were Ajax.-----having all of the parts around is a bonus but only if they are in real nice shape.

In Canada , where I am I would think that you might get 350.00 for them, tops , if the hardware was really good( are there Ajax cymbals too?).

Posted on 11 years ago
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