by the way:
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDQyKK5AX0s"]Steve Maxwell Vintage Drums - (Earl Palmer's Custom Made 3x13" Blaemire Snare Drum - 10/07/13) - YouTube[/ame]
by the way:
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDQyKK5AX0s"]Steve Maxwell Vintage Drums - (Earl Palmer's Custom Made 3x13" Blaemire Snare Drum - 10/07/13) - YouTube[/ame]
I recall seeing one of these shells before. My personal opinion is it's not a Blaemire shell. I think it may be an early Fibes shell. Wish I could ask Jerry. :-(
I recall seeing one of these shells before. My personal opinion is it's not a Blaemire shell. I think it may be an early Fibes shell. Wish I could ask Jerry. :-(
Greg - Jinx was the one that told me about the early Blaemires. The pink color didn't throw me off. The reason why I think it's one of Allen's early ones is the construction and finish. I don't recall ever seeing a Fibes drum that looked like this one. The missing label is the kicker and the only reason to entertain doubt, otherwise, it looks just like one of Allen's shells.
What a painful reminder that Jinxy is gone... he could settle this mystery in a minute. R.I.P. buddy.
John
Greg - Jinx was the one that told me about the early Blaemires. The pink color didn't throw me off. The reason why I think it's one of Allen's early ones is the construction and finish. I don't recall ever seeing a Fibes drum that looked like this one. The missing label is the kicker and the only reason to entertain doubt, otherwise, it looks just like one of Allen's shells.What a painful reminder that Jinxy is gone... he could settle this mystery in a minute. R.I.P. buddy.John
I remember seeing a shell like this, with the random red threading. The first Fibes shells were spun fiberglass. I'm doing some searching as I post this.
Thanks Greg,
I am interested in what it might be.
Scott/Greg - I don't know a whole lot about Fibes drums. Did Fibes ever make a kit with raw spun FB shells like this one? If they did, I've never seen one.
John
Hey John,
Interesting shell.
The Fibes FG shells I have seen look like they were blown by gun into a mold.
Kind of rough on the inside. Like a boat.
Shredded cloth and glass mixed.
Some had a flanged, rolled over edge.
That was tricky mold work.
Did not know about the spun FG.
I always remembered Fibes for the Billy Cobham acrylic kit.
Here is another Blaemire color in pic.
Amber with early X roving. I think circa 1969.
Scott - My drums are from 1971. I wonder if Allen was still using the same technique (X roving) when he made my tubs?! How can I tell the difference just by looking/by sight?
Jinx would have cleared this debate up in a hot second... there's a huge hole/gap in our collective data base now only because Jinxy is gone. He was our go-to guy regarding -anything- fiberglass. All that knowledge went with him.
John
Jinx would have cleared this debate up in a hot second... there's a huge hole/gap in our collective data base now only because Jinxy is gone. He was our go-to guy regarding -anything- fiberglass. All that knowledge went with him.
John[/QUOTE]
Absolutely, I miss him for so many reasons.
John, I have never seen a pic of the insides of your shells.
Please show us a pic.
Are they painted black?
Be brave and take some lacquer thinner to the paint in a spot and lets see some green........or pink?.........or amber....or candy cane?
Green shells typically did not have X roving.
They were later and Allen had decided on no more X.
On Green Shells, some mesh cloth can be seen where the joint/meeting line was on the steel mandrel/sheets he used.
The rest was string type roving. Winding.........and winding.
Oh and dipping/coating too.
Ambers typically did have the X.
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