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Dixie Drums-Different Badge than most?

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Hey all,

My first "real" drum kit was a red sparkle Dixie kit (9" x 13", 14" x 20", 5" x 13"), but it had a different Dixie badge than most I have seen. I was looking around on ebay and I saw this gold sparkle bass drum. This has the exact same badge, lugs, long tension rods and small cymbal holder (like a spur mount essentially) as my kit did. The tom holder shown in the photo looks like it is missing a piece, but mine was in the same place, and was just a gear tilter "thumb" or "clip" mount that only came about 6" to 8" off the shell of the drum.

Anyone know the story of the different badges and which were older/newer? If I remember correctly, it may not have been a "badge" at all, but perhaps a sticker just placed on the wrap??

Thanks!

[IMG]http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b12/vyacheslav13/th_DixieLabel.jpg[/IMG]

Posted on 13 years ago
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This one is older, likely early 60s, as evidenced by the slider cymbal mount and the old almost Slingerland lugs. It is my opinion that this sticker badge and the lugs date this to an earlier era than some of the oval Star stencil badges, and I do believe this is a Star, not a Pearl. Pearl mostly used rectangular badges, even on stencils, whether plastic or sticker.

So, IMO, it is early-mid 60s, likely from around 64-65.

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Posted on 13 years ago
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Thanks, jonni.

The cymbal holder is actually in the right front of the bass drum (from playing position). It looks identical to a bass drum spur mount. In the photo and on my kit as well, the actual cymbal arm was missing, and only the mount was present.

The mount on the batter side left (from playing position) is actually the tom mount. In the photo above, it is missing the geared tooth piece that attaches to it, and it's only adjustment was to be tilted angle wise (like a geared cymbal tilter). It is a "thumb" style mount like on many MIJ and round badge Gretsch where the tom just slips over the top of the "thumb". Even with the geared piece connected and extended so it was fully vertical, it was only about a maximum of 8" or so off the surface of the drum. Here is a photo I found on this forum. Same badge, same tom and cymbal holder, but my sizes were different than what is listed on the photo (mine were 20", 13" with 14" snare and no floor tom). Notice that the badge logo is different than the logo in the upper left of the picture.

[IMG]http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b12/vyacheslav13/th_duplex9.jpg[/IMG]

I hope that helps clarify, and thanks for the info.

Posted on 13 years ago
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I had an orphan 'Dixie' floor tom in WMP with that sticker. Unfortunately the sticker was mostly torn away. I sold the floor tom last year. I was intrigued by the drum since the hardware and shell seemed to be mid sixties, but the sticker logo made me think of a seventies model.

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Posted on 13 years ago
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Thanks fishwaltz. Very interesting. It certainly is intriguing that the advertisement shows the more familiar Dixie logo in the upper left, but the sticker logo badge on the advertised drum models are different. As far as I know, they were only sold by Grossman Music in Cleveland, OH. Anyone know for sure? My parents bought them for me (used of course, I am not quite THAT old!) at a local music store in Toledo, OH (where I grew up) around 1980.

I know as well that a lot of Dixie models had metal hoops with wrap inlay. This badge and model that I am talking about had wood hoops.

Posted on 13 years ago
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The wood hoops are earlier. They would be early-mid 60s as around 68-69 they went to the metal hoops, both at Star and Pearl. Pearl were mainly chrome and Star were mainly black, but they both used both types on certain kits, all up to the distributor that bought them for resale.

"Ignorance may be overcome through education. Stupidity, however, is a lifelong endeavor." So, educate me, I don't likes bein' ignant...
"I enjoy restoring 60s Japanese "stencil" drums...I can actually afford them..."I rescue the worst of the old valueless drums for disadvantaged Children and gladly accept donations of parts, pieces and orphans, No cockroaches, please...
http://www.youtube.com/user/karstenboy
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Coffee...16613138379603
Posted on 13 years ago
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