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Hi. I have heard that cymbals lose their tonal qualities over time. Is there any truth to statement? I am new to the drum world would like to save some money and buy used cymbals. Help!

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Posted on 13 years ago
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"lose" it? - no. The tone quality will change, though. Most of the time, a new cymbal starts out as "brighter" sounding and then, over time, some of the brash tones diminish and the cymbal "ages" and mellows. Some manufacturers actually speed up the aging process to get that more mellow tone quality from the start. Of course, lots of things factor into the equation -like how the cymbal was made and which alloy it was made from....and so forth.

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Posted on 13 years ago
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I can tell you this much, I have some from the 50`s that sound awesome to these ears. So, I wander what they sounded like when they were new.:D

Posted on 13 years ago
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As a cymbal develops it`s natural patina over time, it will sound much warmer (supporting what O-lugs mentioned) than newer cymbals...

I would recommend buying vintage cymbals...I think once you try them, you will never purchase another new cymbal again!!

My 2 cents though...

Cheers

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1978 Ludwig Stainless 22-22-18-16-14-13-12 c/w 6-8-10-12-13-14-15-16-18-20-22-24 concert toms
1975 Sonor Phonic Centennials Metallic Pewter 22-16-13-12-14sn (D506)
1971 Ludwig Classic Bowling Ball OBP 22-16-14-13
1960's Stewart Peacock Pearl 20-16-12-14sn
1980`s Ludwig Coliseum Piano Black 8x14 snare
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1970`s John Grey Capri Aquamarine Sparkle 5x14 snare
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Posted on 13 years ago
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Very few exceptions,but i agree with you.

Hit like you mean it!!
Posted on 13 years ago
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IMO any pro quality cymbal for the most part will sound good for many years if properly played and cared for.My experience with new cymbals,Zil especially is that they take a year or two to settle down/mellow.After that they still change but very gradually.I have "played out " a couple of crashes,it took 20 + years,and these were my first new cymbals,and I abused the heck out of them,what I noticed was that the cymbal became less responsive,in other words I would have to hit it harder to get the high end going,and eventually it lost most of the high end no matter how hard I hit it.The 20' crash now does time as a ride cymbal on my Niece's kit.I have no problem buying used cymbals,although I like to hear them first.

Posted on 13 years ago
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Trust your ears & don't buy junk...and if possible, always buy used. First thing you need to figure out is what bronze alloy makes you smile!...I'm a Paiste guy & the Signature alloy make me smile, it gives me the brighter tones I've always loved & mixes well with many musical genres. BUT, you may hate it...many do. I always tell students or newbies to go to Guitar Center (or fill in the blank ______ music store) and smack some...listen to the tone...than get the sales guy (or whoever) to smack them too while you stand across the store. Find what you like there & then go buy them for half the price on an on-line auction. Last but not least, don't go cheap!...with few exceptions, cymbals hold their value much better than drums, if you buy good stuff on an on-line auction at half the ________ music store price, more times than not, you aren't going to take a loss if you hate it.

Just my 2 cents!

Dan

"Play the drum...don't let it play you" - Max Roach

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Posted on 13 years ago
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