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Custom colored/tinted wraps !!! For real.

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[COLOR="DarkRed"]Hey all. I dunno if anyone else has used these yet...but Drummaker.com started selling these customized wraps in December.

I just got my first load in today. Pretty awesome stuff.

We are talking about a color span of something like 300 different colors...capable of being applied to marine pearl, swirl, or glitter wraps.

My first orders were for a Smoky sorta WMP...slightly champagne-y....and it's amazing...looks like a 40 y.o. aged WMP.

I also tried an olive-green pearl, and it's equally cool. I have never seen a tint like it. I have always had trouble with contemporary greens....they are too bright and lack depth for me. This is very rich, though.

I am awaiting a few sheets of Tiger's Eye Swirl. I used their swatch to match the tint of my '60's Whitehalls...it should be here in a few weeks.

Looks like the mfr'g process uses a white base pattern color (in the instance of pearl or ripple) and fuses a tinted finish clear layer over it.

Not very pricey, either, considering.

For me, this is awesome...I can finally get perfect color matches to those incomplete vintage kits w/ faded wraps (the ones missing a tom and such)...closer than having to settle for the standard-available colors and have slight mismatching.

Of course, likely with time they will fade differently, but nevertheless...a pretty cool concept.[/COLOR]

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Posted on 15 years ago
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Hey Jaye, This sounds interesting.

I have a faaaar from restored Rogers Yorktown 26 X 10 marching bass drum. It looks like silver sparkle - but I removed a beavertail lug and underneath was a glorious gold sparkle. Too bad the whole drum didn't retain that ~ it was stored in a barn (more or less outdoors) for probably 15 years or more before it was given to me.

Anyhoo, I was actually wondering a couple of weeks ago when I pulled it out of the closet if some product existed - liquid or otherwise - that could stain/tint its faded silver to +/- match my champagne sparkle Slingerlands.

Since you're a user, Is this the type of thing that the product you speak of could do?

...but when he played on his drum, he made the stars explode....
Posted on 15 years ago
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From NewDecade

Hey Jaye, This sounds interesting.I have a faaaar from restored Rogers Yorktown 26 X 10 marching bass drum. It looks like silver sparkle - but I removed a beavertail lug and underneath was a glorious gold sparkle. Too bad the whole drum didn't retain that ~ it was stored in a barn (more or less outdoors) for probably 15 years or more before it was given to me.

That's the story with those older Gold Sparkles. I had the exact same story with a Sonor set. Thought it was silver, turned out to be gold. I'm also looking for a rewrap.

Posted on 15 years ago
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[COLOR="DarkRed"]This stuff'd may be for you guys, then.

NewDecade, these are actual wraps...so they are not applied to an existing wrap...you'd need to remove the existing wrap.

The custom tint is dealt with in the clear, glossy finish layer of the wrap.

A wrap basically has a base (bottom) layer (which sticks to shell), a pattern (middle) layer (which contains the pattern ~ sparkle, pearl, what-have-you) and a finish (top) layer, which is the clear top layer.

These are all fused together and become inseparable.

What tis product does is...it TINTS that top transparent glossy layer to a custom color....so the entire wrap becomes that color.

Basically...what drummaker.com will do is...they'll take a $100 deposit and send you the master sheet of colors. A whole friggin' 24x54 sheet with like 300 different color swatches on it.

So...in your cases....I am hoping the wraps are actually Glitter as opposed to Sparkle...because I don't think drummaker can do this in Sparkle (or maybe they just don't show it on the website)...just in Glitter.

But maybe they can do Sparkle. They don't show Ripple on the website eiter, but they did Ripple for me...

Check on your drums....if they are old drums, good chance they're glitter....

Have them send you the master sheet...and then find the swatch which matches up to your drum's wrap as they now exist.

I haven't used Glitter yet...but I bet you can get the match damn close...I mean...they have such subtle gradients of color (like there's 20 different blues, 20 different greens, 20 different champagne/honeys, 20 different golds, and a bunch of brown and blacks/charcoal/greys....)

Find the code # of the tint which matches, and order that.

If either of you end up going this route, lemme know if you need a partner. It's a 3-sheet minimum order, but you can mix and match colors and patterns...so if all you need is one or two sheets, go in on it w/ someone else...

When you are done with the master sheet...send it back to them and you get your $100 back....

Yes, I would be interested in seeing how a sparkle/glitter goes....all of those old golds and silvers...they've all faded to ginger-ale and such...and up until now, there was NO way you could match those fades....

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Posted on 15 years ago
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Thanks Jaye for clarifying the product. I went to the site and wasn't sure what I was looking at. - - Ooooo :eek: a rewrap - not quite ready for that.

"....all of those old golds and silvers...they've all faded to ginger-ale and such..."

This is what inspired me to put my old Rogers on my (lengthening) project list - as it kinda has that "ginger ale" undertone to it. I'd like to quasi-match it to my Champagne Slingers. Or not.... and just keep it beat-retro-cool-beautiful.

...but when he played on his drum, he made the stars explode....
Posted on 15 years ago
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Yes, thanks Jaye.

Has anybody tried this stuff?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Re-wrap-your-Sonor-Ludwig-KIT-in-SPARKLE-over-the-old_W0QQitemZ220348811238QQihZ012QQcategoryZ47082QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

It's certainly cheap. My worry would be that there is no depth to the look if you know what I mean. It's also probably rather thin and a bump against a cymbal stand might be fatal. The Rogers set in the pic looks pretty nice though.

Posted on 15 years ago
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Drum Dad.....[COLOR="DarkRed"][SIZE="7"]DON'T BUY THAT STUFF !!!!!!![/SIZE][/COLOR]

[COLOR="Red"]I got hoodwinked and took the bait on a roll of what he called "Mardi Gras" wrap. Looked decent in the photos and I thought I had scored (yeah, baby...I just found Mardi-Gras wrap !).

The stuff is like a pixelated, heavy duty vinyl-coated cabinet-shelving paper.

D'OH !!!!!

(You get what you paid for)...

I dunno what it is really intended for...temporary set design or something...but it is NOT drum wrap by any stretch of the imagination !!!!![/COLOR]

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Posted on 15 years ago
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[COLOR="DarkRed"][SIZE="5"]Now...HERE'S THE REAL DEAL. [SIZE="2"]I just wrapped my first tom in the custom Olive Pearl.

Pretty dang nice.....[/SIZE][/SIZE][/COLOR]

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Posted on 15 years ago
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Awesome! That looks great Jaye.

Thanks for the heads up on the "shelf paper" wrap. I'll definitely stay away from it.

Posted on 15 years ago
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[COLOR="DarkOliveGreen"]Whole kit finished. I recut the bearing edges on the toms...changed 'em from the stock interior/exterior roundovers to sharp 45 degrees with teeny exterior roundover, then sanded the interiors of the shell down to 320 gr. and applied tung oil finish.

I wanted more punch from the toms...thus the new edges. I also wanted more bounceback from the shells...thus the sanding/finishing of the birch interiors, which increased the surface density and improved the sound-rebound in there.

Put on some new Ambassador tom heads and a Powerstroke 3 on the bass with a felt patch. Went with 1-ply clears as the res heads and a G1 coated on the bass.

You cannot believe how good this kit sounds with those changes. This cheap lil' 2 year old Stagestar...she sounds like a '90's Granstar now. This kit has some.... huevos.[/COLOR]

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Posted on 15 years ago
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