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Correct width and finish for Keystone Ludwig Bass Hoops

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Greetings,

What is the correct width for a Keystone era bass hoop? I have seen both 1.5" and 1.75", but one or the other may have been a replacement. Does anyone know for sure?

Also, is the correct finish on the black paint a satin, semi-gloss or gloss?

Thanks,

V

Posted on 4 years ago
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My 69 Ludwig keystone hoop is 1.75 to the outside of the round, and I would say semi gloss or satin.but I'm no expert. I would think gloss would be too glossy

Posted on 4 years ago
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My 69 Ludwig keystone hoop is 1.75 to the outside of the round, and I would say semi gloss or satin.but I'm no expert. I would think gloss would be too glossy

Plus one on this ^^

Posted on 4 years ago
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It is a nice satin on my original 68 Hollywood as It’s a true time capsule been in cases in a environment all this time none nicer and in very minty shape so I’ve looked close and am in awe but yes old satin but understand gloss is measured by angular sheen and there are vetting degrees of reflection but this is a true satin

Gary

April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp





once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Posted on 4 years ago
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I've always used a satin finish when refurbing bass hoops with good results.

Kevin
Posted on 4 years ago
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I've got a late 1966 kit, and an early 1969 kit - both with 22" bass drums. I am not the original owner of either, and I was surprised to see that 1 hoop on each kit is 1 3/4" wide, while the other hoop is 1/8th inch shorter (1 5/8") on the 1966, and 1/16" shorter (1 11/16") on the 1969. Both hoops have some wear.

As for the original finish, mine have been touched up repeatedly over the decades, but - looking at them closely - I agree that satin is probably the best description...appearing semi-gloss in the right light.

Regards, MB

Posted on 4 years ago
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And one more measurement....I've got a known 1976 kit, and the bass drum hoops are wider than 1 3/4". I'm calling them 1 14/16".

As someone posted earlier, the hoops were apparently made wider in the early to mid 1970s. I have no idea why. Does anyone know?

And then, (apparently) the change was made to the Speed King, whereas the "spacer" (on the forward side of both "goal posts") was shortened, to allow the Speed King to sit at the same distance from the batter head.

Regards, MB

Posted on 4 years ago
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Hoops were originally painted in lacquer. They did not polish the finish which resulted in a satin look. I still use spray can lacquer when redoing hoops. You can still find real lacquer in spray cans in clear, black, and white at most home centers.

Posted on 4 years ago
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