So last week a buddy came by to drop off a few items I let him borrow ( his band was touring and their RV burned to the ground while on the road. Thankfully they didn't get hurt, but lost their gear ) And while we were talking he made mention of wanting a 13"x 9" snare. So I took one of my tom shells and did it up. Went with my 86'er design ( eight lugs top, six on the bottom ) Matched the drum to his PDP kit and it came out great. He was extremely happy with the results. Attaching a photo of my buddy rocking on it last night.