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Controlling bass front head resonance

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My new Gretsch acquisition is my first experience with a bass drum muffle (pratt) and the first time in years that I've used a solid head..it just doesn't seem right on this kit to port it. The kick sounds fantastic, but the front head has more resonance that I've used in years. My question is, how many of you choose to just let the front head be wide open while only muffling the batter? I know that the resonance will be lost in the din of other instruments and while playing, but still I wonder about lack of control.

I put a felt strip on the front and I felt like it was just too much so I took it out. I'm more than willing to keep it as is, as it sounds great, I just wonder what to do in a live setting if the bass is too resonant from the front and I can't easily put something inside.

Posted on 14 years ago
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You might want to try an old school external bass drum muffler. It hooks up from the bass drum hoop and you can control it from the front head. Someone on this site probally will have one for sale. Here's a picture.

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Rogers early Fullerton Blue Strata 22,13,16 w/brass Dynasonic
My first kit, 1983 Ludwig Rocker? (it has the classic lugs and 4ply maple shell) 22,12,13,16 ..now in black oyster pearl. I still have it
Stop Sign USA Gretsch (80's), black nitron jasper shell 22,12,13,16
1995 Fibes Austin,Texas Badge (original owner) 22,10,12,16,18 in natural wood
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Posted on 14 years ago
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First off, congrats on your new (old) kit! I find that the front head resonance is very subjective and has many factors to consider..... Among the biggest two are the size of the bass drum and type of music. I usually prefer an original head set up on vintage kits. That means a coated amb up front. For 20" and larger I use an original felt strip. You can adjust the position closer and further from the edge and get different degrees of muffling. I have a Clev 18" bass drum where I just leave the front head wide open because it just sounds huge that way. It's all up to you and what sounds good to your ears.

I'm also in total agreement with SuperB..... Those external mufflers are great. You can adjust them to just kiss the head and take the edge off....

Posted on 14 years ago
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I have (and use) that exact same muffler. They work great and are adjustable so you can get any amount of muffling you want.

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Posted on 14 years ago
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I've found that Aquarian's Regulator heads work great. You can get them without a hole in them and they seem to have just the right amount of muffling. In leau of that one you could also try their American Vintage heads. They are also premuffled with a felt strip....just enough......then there's always the old school felt strip and the afore mentioned external muffler.....

Posted on 14 years ago
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Thanks guys. The more I play it I think I'm just going to leave the front head open. It seems to be the way a lot of the Gretsch guys I've seen who are getting the sound I want have been doing it. I guess I'll figure out how to deal with any needs to muffle due to room acoustics later. The external muffle is a bit too large for me, like killing a squirrel with a bazooka.

Actually I don't know if you could call the kit old, and definitely not vintage (what is the "qualification" 20 years?), it was presumed it was an 80's Gretsch but it turns out it's only a 96-97 or so. Still, it's a Jasper and it looks and sounds fantastic.

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Posted on 14 years ago
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Usually I just apply a bit of Velcro to the cat and slap her on the reso head. Works like a charm.

Barring that, I use a felt strip or an internal muffler (933 Ray McKinley). They are wonderful. I'm also liking the big round cookies you hang. Those are cool.

Posted on 14 years ago
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From Super B

You might want to try an old school external bass drum muffler. It hooks up from the bass drum hoop and you can control it from the front head. Someone on this site probally will have one for sale. Here's a picture.

The only problem with these is that they can rattle....much like the internal ones for toms....

Posted on 14 years ago
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From Ludwig-dude

The only problem with these is that they can rattle....much like the internal ones for toms....

Wow, I didn't know that, my external muffler doesn't rattle. (My Rogers and Gretsch internal mufflers don't rattle either) Looks like Mr. Compactness is going to let rip naturally. Those drums are going to sing, have fun.

Rogers early Fullerton Blue Strata 22,13,16 w/brass Dynasonic
My first kit, 1983 Ludwig Rocker? (it has the classic lugs and 4ply maple shell) 22,12,13,16 ..now in black oyster pearl. I still have it
Stop Sign USA Gretsch (80's), black nitron jasper shell 22,12,13,16
1995 Fibes Austin,Texas Badge (original owner) 22,10,12,16,18 in natural wood
USA 2007 Rosewood Gretsch 22,13,16 w/12inch 70's Rosewood Gretsch tom
Posted on 14 years ago
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