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Club Date V's Super Classic?

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I have a few questions regarding 60?s Ludwig Club Date kits. I?m actually looking to buy any vintage kit in the smaller sizes 20/12/14 and find that they are mostly club date sets. Where they the cheaper version of the Super Classic Downbeat sets? Do they have the same 3 ply shells? The hardware generally looks cheaper/less durable, is it nickel plated? I?ve seen two different bass drum cymbal mounts, a very simple round mount where the cymbal arm penetrates the bass drum on a silly angle, and the usual mount found on Super Classic drums. Which of the two would be correct (or original) for a Club Date set? Same question again but the bass drum legs. Should a Club Date set sell for less than a Downbeat Set of the same wrap & condition? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Cheers.

Posted on 17 years ago
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I have a few questions regarding 60?s Ludwig Club Date kits. I?m actually looking to buy any vintage kit in the smaller sizes 20/12/14 and find that they are mostly club date sets. Where they the cheaper version of the Super Classic Downbeat sets?

Yes.

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Do they have the same 3 ply shells?

Yes.

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The hardware generally looks cheaper/less durable, is it nickel plated?

Chrome and nickel plating were both options. Hardware is durable, but the long tension rods can be susceptible to bending.

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I?ve seen two different bass drum cymbal mounts, a very simple round mount where the cymbal arm penetrates the bass drum on a silly angle, and the usual mount found on Super Classic drums. Which of the two would be correct (or original) for a Club Date set?

The Club Date kit I used to own had the one that penetrated. I don't know for sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if both versions were made.

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Same question again but the bass drum legs.

Same answer.

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Should a Club Date set sell for less than a Downbeat Set of the same wrap & condition?

Generally Club Date kits have sold for around $500 USD for a 3 piece, around $800 for a more rare color. Recently, however, they have been going over $1000...I think the secret's out. They are great drums that I wouldn't hesitate to gig with. They look cool in their own way. They are the same shells as Classics, but to me they sound a little more open, maybe because of less and lighter hardware.

http://www.classicvintagedrums.com
Posted on 17 years ago
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Thanks heaps for your prompt reply. Just one more question. Anyone got one for sale? Anything in the 20/12/14 sizes actually.

Posted on 17 years ago
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Not for sale , but thought I'd post this pic of mine .

[IMG]http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f164/sonor23/DSCF0072.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f164/sonor23/DSCF0076.jpg[/IMG]

1963 Gretsch Progressive Jazz Champagne Sparkle
1967 Ludwig Super Classic Oyster Blue Pearl
Yamaha Birch Custom Absolute Burgundy Spkl. bop
etc...
Posted on 17 years ago
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