ok normally wouldnt say anything but the ludwig tom mount doohickey hes selling with these drums gotta be worth the asking price? and as for the drums? i just think the 3 concert toms with these are hilarious. its the neil peart starter kit. they should be set up and whaled on in somebodys basement. if anyone wants the ludwig stuff i can go grab and ship. http://hartford.craigslist.org/msg/1600380072.html