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buying modified cymbals

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Well i have the chance to buy a great sounding trans stamp 17" crash at an ok price (not great but it won't break the bank.). My problem is a previous owner took a rotory tool and modified the top to look like a modern "Z". It doesn't really look bad but it completely loses any value and it does go into the lathing beyond any repair that may be accomplished by polishing the cymbal. There are also holes for rivits which isn't a big deal to me.

My question is would you, or do you buy a cymbal based soley on sound and never mind about value or do you consider the fact that you may never get the price out of it if you do decide to sell it. Like i said the sound is fantastic. I think i just need a little push to get me to go for it from some of the experts out there.

I have 5 other trans stamp chrashes and rides so this would sonicly fit but visually it is way way way different than anything i've ever seen from a vintage cymbal.

BTW i'm writing this with only 2 hours of sleep in the last 2days. I'm really sick of midnights!!!!

Let me hear your oppinions, Gary.

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Posted on 14 years ago
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Gary. that's a shame. , did the buffing remove the lathing grooves in the cymbal?? hey if your good with the cost, and you like the sound as you stated, it's kinda 50/50 on your call!

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 14 years ago
#2
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I have a 17"-ish 1950's K that has many holes and cracks - a friend bought it for me at a swap meet for 1 dollar. It's a great cymbal and if it looked perfect I wouldn't own it.

So I say look at it as a bargaining tool to get a great sounding cymbal for cheap. Play it up, tell them the cymbal is ruined and you'll take it to the dump for them!

Posted on 14 years ago
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Keep in mind that you can get some great sounding 17 cymbals for under 100. Don't pay much for it and you will fall in love with it. Pay near what a new inexpensive cymbal costs and it will eat at you, stealing your joy and pleasure with the cymbal. Just my thoughts.

Posted on 14 years ago
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Thanks for the responds guys. Vintagemore, that's the problem i'm having, some of the "swirl marks" have gone down into the grooves and have thinned them in many areas. It does sound great still with a massive amount of wobble to it. I may try a trade with some stuff i'm ready to get rid of!

Gary.

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12,13,16,20, 14x5 snare
Fibes crystallite-14x5.5 snare
Posted on 14 years ago
#5
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Gary that would be a good route to take!! let us know how you make out with it!

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 14 years ago
#6
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Well i think i'm going to pass on the cymbal but i did trade for a newer Armand medium thin 18" crash that is in great shape. I really wanted to unload some stuff that i was never going to use and this cymbal has a nice dark crash quality to it. It will work with some of my other 60's cymbals.

Gary.

Sonor teardrops:
12,13,16,20, 14x5 snare
Fibes crystallite-14x5.5 snare
Posted on 14 years ago
#7
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Gary,I think you made a good call!!

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 14 years ago
#8
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Personally, I've bought a number or "orphans" from ebay that have been "modified," as in sometimes major repairs. They're always modestly priced, and I've gotten some great sounds.

The looks don't matter to me at all -- but I wouldn't pay top dollar. I recall seeing a video of Bill Stewart with a monster slice out of his ride. Must have sounded okay!

Posted on 14 years ago
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Gary Mallaber had a china that was in bad shape. It was broken and cut up. Gary said that the studio guys hated it, it was so obnoxious. But, that's what you here in some of those Steve Miller tunes. Great sound.

Posted on 14 years ago
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