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Best way to repair a crack in wrap?

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Hello,

I was the winner of this ebay auction:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Champagne-Gold-Sparkle-60s-Jazz-Drum-Set-4pc-MIJ-Kit-Sounds-Great-/301056303841?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&nma=true&si=oZSjnTKA0UIFf31qj4sZY2M8%252BwY%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

(I know, I got excited at first, thinking it was a Sonor Teardrop! But this one is still "Ideal" for me!) I tried to include just a picture of the affected tom, but with the ebay "mouse over to enlarge" picture feature, you can't right click and save the picture.

Anyhoo, as you can see in the second picture, the rack tom has a crack in the wrap. What is the least intrusive and least complicated way to repair the crack? What are some methods you have tried before?

Here is one method I was thinking about:

What if I put painters tape on either side of the crack, so that only the crack is exposed. Then I thought about filling the crack with super glue. Once the glue was applied and smoothed out evenly over the crack, I would take the painters tape off, so that the only place the super glue would be is on the crack and nowhere else. Do you think that would work? It's not so much that I want the wrap to be glued back down in that area (I think it will still hold tight okay), but rather to make the wrap "one" again and to keep it from splitting further.

I am happy I won the auction, even though I paid a little more then I wanted to (factoring in shipping as well). But I upped my bid at the last minute for 3 reasons:

1. I don't currently have a 12/16/20 configuration in my arsenal (and I'm a sucker for those 3-ply MIJ kits with re-rings. Every one I have sounds fantastic!)

2. All of my MIJ kits have the Slingerland-esque, very common MIJ lug style. This one has the sharp looking (literally and figuratively) lugs, including offset on the rack tom. I am not a big fan of offset lugs, but it looks cool with these lugs and the fact it's only on one drum makes it unique.

3. Champagne Sparkle, baby! Can't go wrong with that!

On that floor tom with the extra hole (picture 3), the seller said that was the only bracket affected; the other 2 are fine. The seller said that is the only extra hole; someone moved the bracket down lower but used the original bottom hole as the top hole for the lower position, so no extra holes underneath the bracket. I'll probably just fill that in with wood filler and cut a piece of wrap from under the tom bracket or cymbal bracket to cover it and it should be good to go.

On a final note, I thought it was interesting that the snare and floor tom are 8 lug, but the bass drum is 6 lug. Was that fairly common/uncommon for MIJ kits? All of mine have either everything 6 lug or everything 8 lug.

Thanks for the help and suggestions/comments!

V

Posted on 10 years ago
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I've repaired cracks and separations with excellent results but it's tricky. A lot of MIJ drums don't have a lot of adhesive, some even being glued only on the overlap. Your crack looks as though it runs from the bottom up to the vent hole. If I was to do this I would remove all the hardware and carefully see if you can separate the overlap on the wrap. If it's too brittle or too glued don't go further but if the wrap starts to come right off I would stop and take a utility knife and continue the crack above the vent hole up to the top of the drum. I would then clean the wrap where it overlapped, if your careful you can use a worn out Scotch Brit pad with a little soapy water. You can now re-glue the wrap starting where the crack is. Make the crack seam nice and tight and when you get to the overlap it will simply overlap slightly less. When the wrap cracks it shrinks slightly so you can't just glue it down but by doing it this way your using the extra wrap under the overlap. Here's a thread with a MIJ snare I picked up that had a crack that separated by a 1/4" Look at the first pic showing the crack and the scroll down and look at the results. The arrow is where the separation was. Rich. http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=41566&highlight=pink+diamond+pearl

Posted on 10 years ago
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For something like that I'd fill it with an off-white epoxy, let it dry, then go in with a brown sharpie and break up the line by randomly adding little dots (deckled pattern,) of brown. It's not a wide crack. If you do it right, it should pass the stink-test looking at it from a foot or two away.

John

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Posted on 10 years ago
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HY look here:-)

regards

http://www.stdrums.de/tips/crack/crack.htm

Posted on 10 years ago
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Thanks. That epoxy might be the way to go. I'll try that when they arrive.

Posted on 10 years ago
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I just found this stuff!

http://www.americantechnologyinc.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=4

I haven't used it, but I ordered some to use on a cracked wrap repair I have. If you try it, please let me what results you got. I ordered some already, it's on the way.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 10 years ago
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From Purdie Shuffle

I just found this stuff!http://www.americantechnologyinc.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=4I haven't used it, but I ordered some to use on a cracked wrap repair I have. If you try it, please let me what results you got. I ordered some already, it's on the way.John

John

I have used that stuff many times for repairing chips in counter tops.

Just need to buy the right colors and mix and remix to get the exact match.

You have to work really really fast, because it sets up in just a few seconds.

Joe


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Posted on 10 years ago
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Another way of filling cracks is good old PVA MDF glue.. I have recently been playing around with additives.. EG black stamp pad ink added will give you a jet black and glossy finish... it will not fade and retains some flex.

At the craft shop you can buy the sparkle flakes in various colours, these can be mixed in with the PVA also and will shine through..

For white I have tried a few things flour, talc, & tile grout with some success but more experimenting to be done here.

One of these days I'll do a colour swatch and post it up..

Cheers

'77 Slingerland 51N,Super Rock 24,18,14,13.. COW 8,10 Concert toms
'69 Slingerland Hollywood Ace
'75 Rogers Dynasonic 6.5 x 14, 10 lug COB
'77-78 Slingerland 6.5 x 14, 10 lug COB
'78-79 Slingerland 5 1/4 x14 8 lug COB
'79 Biman 5 1/4, Acrolite
'82 Slingerland 5 1/4 x 14. Festival COS
'84 Tama MasterCraft Superstar 6.5 x 14, 10 lug Rosewood
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Posted on 10 years ago
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From PopsOldSkins

John I have used that stuff many times for repairing chips in counter tops. Just need to buy the right colors and mix and remix to get the exact match. You have to work really really fast, because it sets up in just a few seconds.

Pops - One swipe with a putty knife is all you get eh? LOL I've worked with stuff like that before, not easy and not fun. I have to be real careful here, the wrap I'll be repairing is Black Galaxy... rare, rare, rare.

LJ - I'm going to check that stuff out! Sounds like a good candidate for the job.

John

PS added later: Pops, is there a catalyst or retardant additive that you know of that will extend the amount of time you can work with the material?

Too many great drums to list here!

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Posted on 10 years ago
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