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Banned from playing vintage drums!!! Last viewed: 10 seconds ago

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On another post someone was talking about young drummers breaking sticks. Well a guy I know asked if I had anything for sale since his son was a beginner drummer and wanted to upgrade some of his gear. (He didn't tell me at the time but I guess he kept breaking stuff.)

So the guy brought his kid by, maybe 14 years old, and he starts looking at my drums and immediately zones in on a Craviotto snare, one of my favorites and tries to buy it for the kid. I had to insist that it wasn't for sale. So I show him what I've got to sell, a 5 year old 10 ply stop sign badge maple Gretsch, a 1970's premier snare, a ludwig Vistalite, and a 1980s Mapex maple 7x14, but he's not interested in any of that. He has set his sites on a Gretsch COB stop sign '70's that I really don't want to sell. So I told him it was out of his price range and he asks "how much?" and I said 400 bucks, way more than I think its worth, and he reaches in his pocket and starts counting hundreds.

So I reluctantly sold the thing, like the money, but wasn't planning on letting go of that snare.

Ok so the point of the post is that I get called to come by and "tune up" the snare because they say it doesn't sound good anymore.

When I get there he's using it as a side snare, in addition to 13" yamaha Musashi, and he only has one snare stand so he's got this drum sitting on an orange spackling compound tub. Its duct taped to the tub. he's got wads of paper towels duct taped to the top and bottom heads, he's cranked the lugs so tight the hoop looks bent, and it has obviously been dropped because there's a dent on the side of the drum.

He then proceeds to demonstrate how "crappy" it sounds by beating it full force with enormous mallet size sticks. In addition it's missing one of the tension rods which he said is stripped. (not when I sold it)

HELP! can I do an intervention and rescue that poor drum? Can you ban someone from playing vintage drums??? Or should I say abusing them.

1958 Gretsch Kit
1966 Kent Kit
1969 Ludwig Standard Kit
1970 Rogers Power Tone Kit
1970's Ludwig Vistalite Kit
1994 Yamaha Maple Custom
2010 Yamaha Maple Custom
28 assorted snares (including some real crap)
and 1 really nice K Zildjian Istanbul
Posted on 12 years ago
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I can hardly believe this story. Incredible!

12/14/20 Mahogany INDe Bop Cocktail Hybrid

Late 50s Black Nitron 3 Ply Gretsch 13/16/20 w/ Max Roach Snare
Posted on 12 years ago
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wow what a shame. sorry to hear your drum is going to **** . Try to come across another drum to intrigue him with , maybe along with a cheap snare stand and you might be able to convince it back, considering you tell them all the damage that is done, the dent and all....and plain simple it just sounds like complete crap now anyway, he might go for it. being duct tape to the bucket is just mind bending tho !! GL

Posted on 12 years ago
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As Frank Zappa once said:

"There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe and it has a much longer shelf life"

Coffee Break2

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Posted on 12 years ago
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That is a shame.

Maybe donate a decent stand, proper sticks and a couple of quick lessons.

Hope it works out.

Creighton

Nothing special here but I like them.
Posted on 12 years ago
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Why would someone pay $400.00 for a snare but then not spend $50.00 on a stand? :/

www.macdrums.com
Posted on 12 years ago
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I assume you have pointed out to him everything he has done wrong. What was his reaction? Im sorry but if your that dumb to tape a drum to a bucket and know there is a part missing from the drum (t-rod) and then complain about the sound then you should not be doing anything musical intrument related. I think I would shake my head and walk away, but I dont know the guy so its hard to say if I would do that for sure.


Thank you!
Jeff C

"Enjoy every sandwich" Warren Zevon
Posted on 12 years ago
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Yikes, that's like donating your child and finding out it's a meat packing plant or a drug infested trailer park. Sorry for your loss and the stress of that. My drums are my babies too. I hope you can either get it resolved or find another to get your mind off of it!

-C

'65 Ludwig Downbeat (beat up and recovered) 13/16/20 || '78 Ludwig Maple (rescue kit) 13/14/24 || Ludwig Supraphonic 5x14 || 20s Ludwig 6-lug NOB 5x14 || '69 Luddy Acrolite 5x14 || Ludwig Downbeat Champagne Sparkle 4x14 || 60s Ludwig Parade Drum || Slingerland Sound King 5x14 || MIJ 5x14 || 60s Vintage Zildjians & others
Posted on 12 years ago
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Maybe something is cast iron would suit him better? Yikes~! I'd ask him what kind of sound he's after then maybe work with him on it and show him how to get the desired sound he's after. If there is one. Yea tell Dad to shell out for a snare stand. Kinda silly to spend 4 bills on a snare and duct tape it to a bucket. ;)

Glenn.

Not a guru just havin fun with some old dusty drums.
Posted on 12 years ago
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CryBaby I hope it wasn't a 4165 (10 lug). Was it a Lightning 1 or 2? Those "1's" can be a little finicky too.

I say find another snare/stand for him and get yours back (at a reduced price I might add). A normal stand is probably too light for that Gretsch snare anyways, because those drums weigh a ton (COB, cast hoops, cast lugs, cast fishtail strainer, cast Lightning throw-off).

[INDENT]Lug insert - $5

Dent - $20 (repaired by a professional body shop ;) )

Bent cast hoops - $60

Labor to remove all that duct tape residue - $15

Buy back for $300

[/INDENT]

Sounds like an Acrolite should be in his future. There are the new re-issued models. The one's with the satin hardware look really sharp too.

-Tim

Posted on 12 years ago
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