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Anyone Seen The Snare For This Kit?

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It's a long shot, but there has to be a matching snare out there, right? From what I've learned through this forum, this is a Star(?) Fantasia kit, missing the matching snare. I've seen an old catalog online that displayed one with the kit.

I'm convinced the rack tom is a slightly different pattern, being tighter with a more consistent circular pattern. Anyone ever seen the snare?

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Posted on 13 years ago
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From surfcollector

It's a long shot, but there has to be a matching snare out there, right? From what I've learned through this forum, this is a Star(?) Fantasia kit, missing the matching snare. I've seen an old catalog online that displayed one with the kit.I'm convinced the rack tom is a slightly different pattern, being tighter with a more consistent circular pattern. Anyone ever seen the snare?

You maybe wishing for a matching snare for the set but in 30+ year's in dealing in vintage drum's i have Never seen one..Most of these set's came with a chrome metal snare....Mikey

Posted on 13 years ago
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Man, where do you guys find these sweet wraps? All I get is blue sparkle, maybe even the odd "rare orange sparkle"...but Fantasia and Red Agate? Not much chance I'll see those around here, in any condition, let alone primo like those. I do know of one gent in Germany that has a matching Fantasia snare, and he ain't about to let go of it.

The Fantasia and Lava wraps were hand made patterns so each sheet was slightly different from the last. Not likely your kit is a put together as that is one of the rarest of Star wraps. Lava and Green Agate are likely the rarest and Peacock coming in third. Blue Ripple and Oyster Pearl are also rather hard to find, I don't think I have actually seen but one kit in each (pics, that is), and never ever seen a Green Agate, even pics of one.

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Posted on 13 years ago
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Mikey and Jonni are both correct. Here's a German catalog page showing it as a Royal Star Stagemaster V with a chrome snare. I can't locate it, but I've seen a similar catalog with the matching snare but only as a four piece....

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Oh man is that wrap ever something...

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Thanks for quoting a page of my (German) catalogue here, surfcollector. ;)

That wrap comes up approx. once in a year in Germany on ebay, but with a COS snare always. I think that wooden snares were not so modern in the late 60s/ early 70s. And if the wooden snare shell had a wrap, it was most likely in sparkle/ marine pearl wraps.

Some time ago a Star drumset in metallic copper (wrap over wooden shells) was sold in Switzerland with a fitting snare drum with copper wrap (must have been a 10 lugs KingBeat with metal shell). That's the very only one I've seen over the years with a matching wrap.

Ralf

Vintage STAR (= Pre-Tama) website: www.star-drums.de
Posted on 13 years ago
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From Ralf

Thanks for quoting a page of my (German) catalogue here, surfcollector. ;)That wrap comes up approx. once in a year in Germany on ebay, but with a COS snare always. I think that wooden snares were not so modern in the late 60s/ early 70s. And if the wooden snare shell had a wrap, it was most likely in sparkle/ marine pearl wraps.Some time ago a Star drumset in metallic copper (wrap over wooden shells) was sold in Switzerland with a fitting snare drum with copper wrap (must have been a 10 lugs KingBeat with metal shell). That's the very only one I've seen over the years with a matching wrap.Ralf

I get matching wood snares on a lot Star and Pearl made kits. Most are stencils, granted, but even the catalogs list options for the wood snare as opposed to the COS. Not many dealers stocked them that way, but the woodies were less expensive and some savvy dealers took advantage of the idea of having a matching woodie, and saving a few dollars on stocking fees. In the 60s, if you could save 5-8 bucks on your inventory x20-50 kits.....you only stocked a few fully loaded kits, and those likely would be your top American made inventory. I can see 1 or 2 stencil kits (even Star and Pearl badged kits were not considered top line drums in the 60s, they were very much considered entry-level) as fully loaded on the showroom floor, the rest would have been set up with the King Stone and other MIJ cymbals and stands. Those were the bread and butter at Christmas time.

"Ignorance may be overcome through education. Stupidity, however, is a lifelong endeavor." So, educate me, I don't likes bein' ignant...
"I enjoy restoring 60s Japanese "stencil" drums...I can actually afford them..."I rescue the worst of the old valueless drums for disadvantaged Children and gladly accept donations of parts, pieces and orphans, No cockroaches, please...
http://www.youtube.com/user/karstenboy
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Coffee...16613138379603
Posted on 13 years ago
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Cool Wrap! True probably best bet would be to find a matching chrome snare and go with that until the magic moment (you find a matching snare) happens.

Posted on 13 years ago
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Coincidentally ...

http://cgi.ebay.de/Schlagzeug-Bollero-vintage-/150579753884?pt=Drums_Percussion&hash=item230f40b39c

But again: with NO matching snare drum ...

Ralf

Vintage STAR (= Pre-Tama) website: www.star-drums.de
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This settles it...They did make a Fantasia wrapped snare. I live in Chicago where this was for sale...a year ago!

That was my only chance...

http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=12494&highlight=fantasia+Star

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