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Any Gretsch Experts?

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Hi guys,

I'm new to the forum but have been an active drummer for 30 years. During that time, I've owned a few Gretsch kits, all of them having the silver sealer for the post 3-ply era. I just came across this floor tom while buying some loose gear. Anyone come across a stop sign badge era kit without silver sealer interiors? This shell has all of the hallmarks of a Gretsch shell minus the sealer.

Posted on 6 years ago
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I saw pictures of that drum a few days ago. I have documented a small number of Gretsch drums which would normally have had but lacked the silver sealer, but most are concentrated in a different serial number range.

Collecting information about the following for ongoing research projects:
Gretsch drums with serial numbers,
Ludwig Keystone and B/O badge drums with serial numbers and date stamps,
Ludwig Standards from 1968-73, and
Ludwigs with paper labels from 1971-72
www.GretschDrumDatingGuide.com
Posted on 6 years ago
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Thanks for the input. I like to be 100% sure on these things, but this one is nagging at me. The ply configuration fits the maple/gumwood combination of the Jasper shells and the edges are the 30 degree rounded ones.

Posted on 6 years ago
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I thought the placement of the leg mounts was interesting. There do not seem to be extra holes from Gretsch mounts before the Rogers ones. I think that most floor toms I have seen do not put a leg mount on the same panel as the badge. The leg would cover the badge if it were not extended most of the way. I just looked at the Gretsch and Ludwig drums I have in my basement and none of them had leg mounts sharing the panel with the badge. That is a small sample size, but it does make me wonder about this particular drum.

Collecting information about the following for ongoing research projects:
Gretsch drums with serial numbers,
Ludwig Keystone and B/O badge drums with serial numbers and date stamps,
Ludwig Standards from 1968-73, and
Ludwigs with paper labels from 1971-72
www.GretschDrumDatingGuide.com
Posted on 6 years ago
#4
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Some drum stores ordered drums without the various mounting hardware and/or legs mounted. This was especially common with Gretsch drums as their hardware tended to lag behind in "modernization" . Then the store would install whatever hardware/legs the end user preferred. That could be the case here if there are no extra holes. If so the installer might not necessarily adhere to the same mounting criteria as the factory tended to use. One possible explanation anyhow.

Posted on 6 years ago
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K.O.'s point would answer the "why Rogers FT mounts".

1968 Ludwig Super Classic kit Blue Oyster Pearl
22, 13, 16, 14x5
1968 Ludwig Hollywood kit Blue Oyster Pearl
22, 12, 13, 16
A Zildjian cymbals (50's-70's)
Posted on 6 years ago
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