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I get more and more disheartened with the level of greed in the vintage drum market. It keeps getting worse and worse.

Take a look at this auction:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-SLINGERLAND-DYNAMO-HI-HAT-BUDDY-RICH-CYMBAL-STAND-SQUARE-NUT-SN-1-VITAL/113632785258?hash=item1a750ab36a%3Ag%3AehEAAOSwYNdcYY7A&LH_ItemCondition=3000

$39.95 for three, standard square nuts that can be had at your local neighborhood hardware store for 40 cents each, but because they came from a vintage Slingerland stand, that means they are worth $13.33 a piece, right? Ridiculous!

What's even worse, some sucker actually bought one of these lots at the stated price (it says "one sold" in the auction).

The seller, "mattspickens" I believe is a drum stripper and has insanely high prices. I am looking for a top section to a Ludwig 1400 cymbal stand, and he has one that is all rusted, corroded, scarred and generally very beat up and he wants $40 for it.

It seems like the vintage drum market (and especially the used gear market in general) is, and has been for a while, a buyers market. Any time I sell anything, I'm not getting anywhere near what I could have/should have gotten for it, say, five years ago.

What ever happened to fair pricing and letting the market dictate the rest? Now, virtually everything is so overpriced, the market can't self regulate, because all of the prices being asked are so skewed. This is craziness. I keep thinking that people like "mattspickens" will wise up and realize they aren't moving any inventory and adjust their prices accordingly, but virtually no one is doing that. It just makes zero sense to me.

Posted on 4 years ago
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People like those you name need to find only one sucker for each item. If you choose to not be one of those suckers, that is your prerogative. Just how nit-picky do you want to be for replacing little widgets such as those square nuts? Those parts strippers count on an anal-retentive seeing those listings, and soiling his pants before hitting the "buy it now" button. On a personal note, I'm looking for a blue oval Leedy drum badge. I don't care if it's from a 1960's drum shell or made yesterday in someone's basement workshop. But, I don't think that I want to pay about $30.00 for a repro badge because it's currently the only one listed on eBay. I'll find one at a reasonable price probably when I'm not actively searching for it.

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Posted on 4 years ago
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From vyacheslav

$39.95 for three, standard square nuts that can be had at your local neighborhood hardware store for 40 cents each, but because they came from a vintage Slingerland stand, that means they are worth $13.33 a piece, right? Ridiculous!What's even worse, some sucker actually bought one of these lots at the stated price (it says "one sold" in the auction).

Hey V, you should re-read the listing. $39.95 is for ONE! Three available, one sold. The one that was sold was purchased at a bargain price of $19.99.

Posted on 4 years ago
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It happens all the time with all kinds of vintage/antique items.

The fact is that some collectors have a lot of money and they don't mind spending it. To me, those are the people I want to see buying stuff in the vintage drum market. Otherwise, collectors are just playing trading cards with each other in a very small, inner circle.

In my opinion, the people who had the insight to collect the good stuff have already collected it and they are now enjoying their collections, so there's nothing really nice for sale out there. The only things I see on the market are the very bottom of the barrel scrapings, e.g., Frankensteins, rewraps, mismatched orphans, altered-in-some-way, or even flat-out broken drums. Because of this, I think the perceived "fair market value" is at an all-time low. When something really nice does come along, the prices are comparatively astronomical (Think: Gretsch bop kits, Istanbul K Zildjians, etc.).

Let's face it...It takes balls to sell nuts like that... *ba-doom PAH!

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Posted on 4 years ago
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