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A "what's it worth" question

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I have a set I'm going to sell - any opinions as to a price range? It's a 70's Slingerland 8 pc. chrome over maple double bass set, 13/13/14/15/18/24/24, 14x6 12 lug snare, couple of cymbal stands, snare stand, two Yellow Jacket pedals, 24' and 19" Avedis Zildjian cymbals all in very nice condition.

Your opinions are appreciated!

Dan

Posted on 18 years ago
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Are all of the drums bouble headed?

Ia the snare also COW? Does it have 4 vent holes and a TDR strainer?

How old are the cymbals?

Any extra holes? Are the Bass drums virgin or drilled for tom mounts?

Thanks

David

Posted on 18 years ago
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The mounted toms are single headed, the snare is all metal - looks like chrome over aluminum, has four vent holes and I don't know what a TDR strainer is. I believe the cymbals to be from the 70's as well but don't know for sure. What does all this mean to you? (I'm looking for some education) Thanks!

Dan

Posted on 18 years ago
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And the BDs have tom mounts.

Posted on 18 years ago
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I have a set I'm going to sell - any opinions as to a price range? It's a 70's Slingerland 8 pc. chrome over maple double bass set, 13/13/14/15/18/24/24, 14x6 12 lug snare, couple of cymbal stands, snare stand, two Yellow Jacket pedals, 24' and 19" Avedis Zildjian cymbals all in very nice condition. Your opinions are appreciated!Dan

Odd sized cymbals. That 24" might be something for a cymbal collector. For whatever reason, 70's Slingerlands are not that valuable. They made some great drums and all, but there just isn't a big collector's market for that era of Slingerland in those sizes. That sounds like a "metal" kit and those days of huge drums and huge sets are gone outside the few bands that still play that style. If everything is in really REALLY good condition, I would say they MIGHT be worth 1200-1500 on a good day. That's a hard finish to keep scratches from showing. Even a few blemishes will diminish the value even further. I don't mean to sound discouraging. It's just a guess.

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Posted on 18 years ago
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The single headed drums are called concert toms, so they are not worth as much as double headed drums that is why I asked.

The snare might be worth something and it would probably be better to sell that seperately from the set. I would need to see a picture. Does the snare strainer have a big black handle??

I have no problem selling a snare drum from the set if it is not matching like the snare from your set, that is why I asked that question.

The vintage drum business has taken a turn and guys are selling complete kits drum by drum on Ebay.

If the snare matches the set I prefer to sell it as a set, but if it is a metal snare on a set I would probably sell it seperate from the drums depending on what the snare drum is.

Other then that I would venture to guess the concert tom set would sell for between $900 and $1200 with the hardware, cymbals and snare. (condition is a big factor and it might go for more if it is excellent and less if it is not.)

I also think the set is mid to late 70's because the 3 vent hole snares started at that time. The snare drum was called the Buddy Rich model shown in WMP in the catalog but also available is COB (chrome over brass).

Does a magnet stick to the shell??? If not and the drum is heavy then it has a brass shell. Of course without pictures I can only go on what you are telling me. Also condition is a big factor and price might change if it is not in great shape. No dings, scratches, missing parts, rust etc..

It should also have 10 lugs on the snare drum??

Let me know

David

Posted on 18 years ago
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Hi David - Thanks for taking the time... As to the snare, a magnet won't stick to it, but the inside looks like aluminum - thats why I didn't think it was brass. It definitely has 12 lugs and 4 vent holes, no big black handle on the strainer - it's chrome with a black Slingerland "S" on the strainer. As to condition they are not perfect (some drums like the snare are pretty near perfect)- they have a few dings and scratches here and there. Of course I think they look great for 30 year old drums, but a collector may be pickier. Maybe I will just sell them drum by drum as you mentioned. I recently saw a FT like mine go for over $200 and a tom mount go for $185! (the set has four of them). Part of me is tempted to keep a 5 pc. set and sell the rest individually, but I have a space issue and two other sets (one electronic). What do think the cymbals are worth by themselves? Thanks again for taking the time to make me better informed!

Dan

Posted on 18 years ago
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Oh yeah - what's TDR?

Posted on 18 years ago
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Well, I never recommend splitting drums, but that set would not rank on the high level of collectability and might be a candidate.

As stated I have never split a set up before, so it is up to the individual.

If it was a rare set in rare colors, I would say do not split it up. (this is what people are doing on Ebay at the moment) but you can do with your property as you see fit.

There have been some heated threads on other forums and I really do not want to start one here.

In the end to some people it is just drums and to others it is a historical time piece. Let's just hope the rare drums fall into the hands of the collector and not the hands of the other.

With anything collectors will always hold things in higher regard and with more respect. Once a market is created then the other person will pop up more frequently since they see a demand.

In regards to the cymbals, 70's A's are not the best in bringing a high value. I did have a 24" inch ride from the 50's, that sold really well on Ebay. It was very thin for a ride and made an excellent jazz ride cymbal. Many players would never think of using a 24", but there are people that will want that cymbal. I would say between $200 and $300 for the ride and $100 to $150 for the crash.

The snare is a 12 lugger so it is probably a Spitfire and not a BR

later called the TDR. The Spitfires also came with 12 lugs and a TDR strainer.

I wonder if our Super Moderator Tommy P can shed more light on the snare and the shell construction.

David

Posted on 18 years ago
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David/drenwick...!

Interesting reading on this thread... and I think I can dial in this snare drum for you too...

From all the descriptions, it appears to me that what you have here is INDEED what was known as the "Spitfire" model. It IS NOT the BR model. This drum came out in 1979 and was available in 5 ply wood or chromed brass, and the sizes were 5X14, or 61/2X14. ( I have to mention that I have personally never seen this model in wood though... it's always been the brass shell ) The 12 lugs and four air vents also dial it in nicely. TDR is what Slingerland called their top of the line strainer/throw at the time... it stood for: Total Dynamic Response.

This drum was "unofficially" known as the Louis Bellson Model as it was said to have been designed/inspired by Louis himself. Of interest is that NOBODY really referred to it as the "Spitfire"... it was almost always called the Louis Bellson Model!

Regarding the sale of the kit... well, David is right... guys are passionate about this. The extreme final word is yours though... do what YOU WANT to do with the drums. After all, they are yours!! But having said this,

The snare drum could most certainly be sold independent of the rest of the kit. As a matter of fact, I think the snare drum would do nicely on it's own ( contingent on condition of course! ) and then sell the rest of the kit together.

Hope this was of help!

Tommyp

Posted on 18 years ago
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