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70's Star Drums

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I got this no badge MIJ kit in Kenosha yesterday for $80. For some reason I was intrigued by the possibilities. It's nice to have a vintage kit to work with that I don't have to worry about keeping original, since it's already been messed with. It was almost definitely rewrapped, one of the toms is from a different kit (and the same size as the original one), and I don't think the tom holder is original. The holder on it now is a spade type, but when I took the plate off of the tom I found a hole for a post mount. The good news is that its 3 ply, and hopefully has some potential to sound decent.

I got it in pretty rough shape. Here are some before pictures. There are plenty more at http://s988.photobucket.com/albums/af5/potsy24/Star%20Drums%20Restoration/

(The Acrolite and hi hat in the pictures did not come with this kit)

Posted on 13 years ago
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Day two: hardware and "wrap" stripped. It totally seemed like they used roofing paper to wrap this thing. There's nothing nice looking underneath, just blackish luan. I'm going to wrap these with wood veneer, and figure out some sort of inlay to use. Most of the screws/washers are beyond saving, but I'm ok with replacing those. I'll keep a bag full of whatever I replace just in case the next owner wants it.

Posted on 13 years ago
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OK, here we go...what are you wanting to accomplish with this kit? You will be limited as to tonal range, and possibly projection. You can increase the projection by applying 4-6 coats of lacquer to the interior of the shells. If you really want to increase range, add an interior veneer of maple. Not easy, but well worth the work. Not worth anything monetarily, as far as I can tell because I have done this to my kit, but the tone is so much better.

I can give you so much information as to how to make these sound better, but it takes time and a lot of patience. One thing, never use steel wool or polyurethane. Steel wool kills the shine on chrome and poly lends a plastic sound to the drums.

I do use steel wool, but only when cleaning my t-rods. I use a neat attachment for my screw gun ( http://www.americanmusical.com/ItemList--Drum-Care--m-1171--page-2 ) and use it and mineral oil to deep clean all my t-rods. It does not work for bass Ts, but....

"Ignorance may be overcome through education. Stupidity, however, is a lifelong endeavor." So, educate me, I don't likes bein' ignant...
"I enjoy restoring 60s Japanese "stencil" drums...I can actually afford them..."I rescue the worst of the old valueless drums for disadvantaged Children and gladly accept donations of parts, pieces and orphans, No cockroaches, please...
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Posted on 13 years ago
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I'm not sure exactly what I'll want to do to the bearing edges. I think I'd like to see how they sound with the current rounded edges and some new heads. For now I made sure the edges were flat and even, then sanded them down smooth. I suppose I should strip the paint from the interiors, I'm just not sure if it's worth it. I guess I would have to do that if I wanted to laquer the interiors or apply maple. More projection is always nice, but I really do like the warm tone and shorter sustain of vintage drums. So I'm hesitant to change the bearing edge.

Posted on 13 years ago
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I decided on paint for these shells. I'll try to get them smooth enough for paint, but I'm cooking up some plansnfor a paintable covering if I can't get them smooth. I'm going to use the Jonnistix glitter finish method to put a stripe around them. Here is the approximate color scheme I'll be going for.

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Posted on 13 years ago
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These shells are cleaning up well. I got the paint/glue off with some paint stripper, and am most of the way through sanding. I bought a spray gun kit today for use with my air compressor. It has 2 guns: one for water based paints and one for solvent based. So I can spray the paint and the lacquer too.

For the record, this kit was stained black, then painted white, then wrapped in a textured matte black of some sort.

Posted on 13 years ago
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I dig that finish idea man!

-Adam

Posted on 13 years ago
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From potsy24

I'm not sure exactly what I'll want to do to the bearing edges. [COLOR="Red"]A good sanding without any change to the original contour is what I do. Use 100 then 220 to get a nice, smooth edge. This also allows the heads to slide more easily over edges for quicker, easier tuning that saves wear on your new heads.[/COLOR] I think I'd like to see how they sound with the current rounded edges and some new heads. [COLOR="red"]They sound very deep and woody, warmer than you may expect. I like a good single ply head, and Aquarian Z-100 Coated heads work well with these shells.[/COLOR] For now I made sure the edges were flat and even, then sanded them down smooth. [COLOR="red"]Again, they really need to be rounded over to get full resonance out of the shells.[/COLOR] I suppose I should strip the paint from the interiors, I'm just not sure if it's worth it. [COLOR="red"]Big pain, no gain. Way more work than it's worth. Since they are already painted, maybe just knock down the rough and apply a coat of "granitone" to them, sold at all your finer Mal-Mart paint and home counters.... in an easy-to-use rattle can applicator. [/COLOR] I guess I would have to do that if I wanted to laquer the interiors or apply maple. More projection is always nice, but I really do like the warm tone and shorter sustain of vintage drums. So I'm hesitant to change the bearing edge.[COLOR="Red"]Great Idea![/COLOR]

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"Ignorance may be overcome through education. Stupidity, however, is a lifelong endeavor." So, educate me, I don't likes bein' ignant...
"I enjoy restoring 60s Japanese "stencil" drums...I can actually afford them..."I rescue the worst of the old valueless drums for disadvantaged Children and gladly accept donations of parts, pieces and orphans, No cockroaches, please...
http://www.youtube.com/user/karstenboy
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Coffee...16613138379603
Posted on 13 years ago
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Yeah, I'll sand them to 220 and keep the contour they have for now. By "flat", I just meant level, like flat when you lay them on a countertop and the whole edge contacts the counter. They're still rounded.

I used a paint stripper on the outside to get rid of the paint/glue. I can see from that process the inside would not be worth it. Since there's no glue inside, I can just sand and paint over it like you suggested. I'll just use the same paint as the outside, which is a high gloss enamel. I'll tape off the bearing edges and leave them bare.

I was planning on trying the Z-100 heads on top with the cheap attack reso heads (5 pack for $30!).

Posted on 13 years ago
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Things are coming along. I got everything repaired and sanded, bearing edges are ready to go, and priming is done on most of the drums. I decided to plug the hole on the bass drum for the tom mount. I won't use it, and I think it will look better as a (born again) virgin. Ha, drum joke!

For the tom mount hole, I didn't have a dowel that was the right size, so I added some shims. Once the glue dries, I can snap off the shims and go over the top with wood filler.

Posted on 13 years ago
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