KITS...

"Downbeat" is a 12/14/20 with either a Supra or a "Downbeat" (4 X 14) snare.

A kit with the dimensions you are looking for (13/16/22 + snare) is a "Super Classic". A "Hollywood" kit has two mounted toms, just FYI...I think they started out with two 12" mounted toms...but then later switched to a 12/13 mounted. I think that configuration changed its name later on, too. *Dang, I really need the CD ROM of the old catalogs! Someone here will correct me, I'm sure...:)

I don't know what Ringo played on that tune and I don't know what the Steppenwolf snare is...but it's likely that the sound had a lot to do with where/how the drums were recorded in the studio...and the drummer, of course.

"Clubdates" were kits with center-mounted "bowtie" lugs and extra-long t-rods. They were considered more of a budget line since they utilized less hardware...but they sound the same as any of the higher-priced lines, in my opinion.

"Super Classics" are fairly common and I would recommend that if you like blue sparkle, then you should be able to find a nice, matched kit for around $1000.00 -$1500.00 (depending on condition, of course).

SNARE DRUMS...

"Pioneers" are 6-lug drums and are great sounding drums (for the most part). They are a very good bargain for the sound.

"Jazz Festivals"(Jazz Fests) are the 8-lugged "brother" of the Pioneer and they command a much higher price...I think they sound a little drier than the Pioneer. I prefer the Pioneer to the Jazz Festival for this reason...but, as far as value goes, the Jazz Festival is much more valuable...presently. ;)

But, the most ubiquitous Ludwig snare drum sound BY FAR is attributed to the Supraphonic 400 snare -the alloy ones. They are everywhere and I've never heard a bad one!

Great post, and nice to have all that information in "one spot", for future reference...

Thanks!

I have heard that the snare on born to be wild was a rogers dynasonic metal drum. I am not certain though. A ludwig supra would be a great drum to have from that era and there are plenty of them. If you like the wood models then I would suggest the jazzfest which is an eight lug snare drum.

If you want to try and save money, I would go for a more common color instead of something rare that would comand big bucks. I will say though that I don't think any of the stuff will lose value and a rare and collectable finish will only increase as the years go by.

-Kurt

Thanks I know Ringo played a Hollywood kit on the Let it Bebut I'll probably get the Super Classics.

At the time, Ringo switched to his "Hollywood" (22", 12", 13", 16") kit which was a 70's Ludwig with the natural maple finish, white interiors. He also was using an older 60's black oyster pearl finish snare drum with the kit, I believe.

Don't think Ringo could have had a '70s set since the Beatles broke up in early '70.

His kit had the keystone badges, so it had to have been late '60s.

Yep...and also the 70's drums didn't have white interiors.Burger Kin