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24" Tosco medium ride

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Hi Folks, I'd like your advice on this ride cymbal:

http://www.marktplaats.nl/a/muziek-en-instrumenten/instrumenten-toebehoren/m939131856-zeldzaam-vintage-24-inch-ridebekken.html?c=a2384ef0ece270f44503df9f8598c624&previousPage=lr

I't's B20 and in good shape. The guys asks about 200 euro's (225 dollar). Is that a decent price?

Thanx in advance. Bart

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Posted on 9 years ago
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In the U.S.,a used 24 Zil or paiste would probably bring 200.00 240.00 depending on the day,Toscos don't bring as much here,but they may bring more bucks where you are.

Obviously 24 are much more uncommon so I would think that influence the price on any pro level pie.

I think the lighter ones bring more money also.

Posted on 9 years ago
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Thanx. I could not resist buying it. I payed 200 euro's. I'll have it tomorrow.

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Posted on 9 years ago
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Bartw,,,,I think you scored,,,,,love to hear that bad boy

Posted on 9 years ago
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From bartw

Thanx. I could not resist buying it. I payed 200 euro's. I'll have it tomorrow.

Fellow European Tosco fan here. I think you can be happy with the price you paid. 24" is rare so that's going to make it more expensive. Tosco are great cymbals. You'll notice that it's probably not exactly 24" Try measuring the cymbal when you get it. They were metric sizes so it will either be slightly bigger or slightly smaller than 24" or who knows, maybe it is exactly 24", but they were metric sizes. Good find!

Posted on 9 years ago
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It's standing in my living room now. Wow, it looks as new and sounds great, low but clear and not to loud, with an amazing bell. If I crash it, it's thunder. Because I have to think of the neighbours I can't yet hit it really hard. And because of moving to another town I don't have a drum practice room at the moment, so I have to wait till the next band practice to really test it.

@Chromeo: indeed it is a little smaller than 24 inch; 59,5 cm.

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Posted on 9 years ago
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There are Toscos made by Sabian,right?.old oneS were UFIP.........

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Posted on 9 years ago
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From blairndrums

There are Toscos made by Sabian,right?.old oneS were UFIP.........

Tosco was a separate company and never part of UFIP. Tosco cymbals were made by Tosco. Robert Zildjian was a shareholder in Tosco from the beginning and took that shareholding into Sabian when Sabian was formed. Later Sabian bought out the other shares, and there was a period when Sabian used the Tosco brand with ink like "Tosco by Sabian" This cymbal doesn't say that, and I presume it is just a Tosco. I'm travelling so I haven't got access to my reference library, so I can't remember the other ink styles Sabian put on them. Somebody here might be able to confirm the other ink styles.

Some directors of Tosco were in UFIP for a time, but the companies were always separate. Tosco did not do rotocasting and the cymbals were cast in a separate facility. This "cast" is the Italian gravity casting style in a mould in the shape of a cymbal, but not a spinning mould as in rotocasting.

Italian does not imply UFIP (there were at least 5 separate companies casting cymbals), and UFIP does not imply rotocast (rotocasing didn't start unil around 1975). This is all written up in The Cymbal Book and has been well documented for years. I hope my summary from memory clarifies things a bit. My memory isn't always 100% so some kind soul could verify it via The Cymbal Book.

Posted on 9 years ago
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I can't verify, but I do say thanx for the info!

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Posted on 9 years ago
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From zenstat

Tosco was a separate company and never part of UFIP. Tosco cymbals were made by Tosco. Robert Zildjian was a shareholder in Tosco from the beginning and took that shareholding into Sabian when Sabian was formed. Later Sabian bought out the other shares, and there was a period when Sabian used the Tosco brand with ink like "Tosco by Sabian" This cymbal doesn't say that, and I presume it is just a Tosco. I'm travelling so I haven't got access to my reference library, so I can't remember the other ink styles Sabian put on them. Somebody here might be able to confirm the other ink styles. Some directors of Tosco were in UFIP for a time, but the companies were always separate. Tosco did not do rotocasting and the cymbals were cast in a separate facility. This "cast" is the Italian gravity casting style in a mould in the shape of a cymbal, but not a spinning mould as in rotocasting. Italian does not imply UFIP (there were at least 5 separate companies casting cymbals), and UFIP does not imply rotocast (rotocasing didn't start unil around 1975). This is all written up in The Cymbal Book and has been well documented for years. I hope my summary from memory clarifies things a bit. My memory isn't always 100% so some kind soul could verify it via The Cymbal Book.

Thanks for the info so rotocasting wasn't used by Tosco!i have a 'Tosco by Sabian Shimmering China' 18. I really love it's very unique sound. The opposite of my LOUD A Custom, it has little attack but a sweet pangy swell that is a sweet effect. Hard to describe but my AAX Ozone 18 hit with a mallet is similar but with a sweeter and longer decay. In the studio and placed right it always steals the show. Best $40 I've spent on a cymbal~!

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