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1969ish Pearl stencil COS snare

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There are several threads on here demonstrating that, with a little elbow grease and some new heads, an old MIJ drum can sound very good, if not great.

This is not one of those threads.

Here is an old Pearl stencil COS snare that I picked up for $20 (I'm calling it a 1969 because that's the year this strainer design was introduced in the Pearl catalogs, but I really have no idea what year it was actually made.) Bought it just 'cause I wanted a project (like I even needed another,) I thought it might clean up nicely, and I like the design of the strainer. I thought it would at least end up a fun player snare. I've also formed the opinion over the last few years that the Pearl stencil stuff is higher quality than the Star stuff. Well, this project has forced me to reconsider that position.

I used nearly every tip I've read about here on the forum in the restoration of this snare. And in doing a respectable restoration, I think I have succeeded. I polished the shell with metal polish by hand, I only used steel wool on a few very small rust spots on the rims, soaked the rusted parts in vinegar (which works incredibly well, by the way,) treated them in WD-40, soaked the t-rods in Dawn and warm water overnight, cleaned/polished the strainer and butt, de-rusted the interior with WD-40, lubricated the t-rods with 3-in-1 oil, and completed it with brand new heads and snare wires.

Basically, I did everything possible to make for a textbook restoration. And I should now be pleased with the results, but I'm not. So far, this thing does not sound good.

I tuned it up before attaching the snare wires. Certain lugs would tune up ok and sound open and resonant, but others (maybe the ones near the snare beds) either had awful overtones that wouldn't tune out, or the sound would choke out completely. I may have to mess with the snare wire tension, but so far I'm not pleased with the snare sound I'm getting, either.

I'm all but certain the problem originates with an issue with the shell itself. The seam on this shell is a disaster. It is messy as hell and ends up in 2 'bumps' on the bearing edges. I'm pretty sure that these bumps are the culprit in un-tunability of the drum. Anyway, I just got it set up tonight, but in the little time I've had with it, I was not able to get any kind of a useable sound.

Here's a couple pics of this nightmare edge.

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Oh, and a few before pics:

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And after pics:

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I just did the same thing-bought that style drum,except with the next generation "Diamond"lugs.Same crappy weld line,and mine has corrosion right thru to the base metal along the snare head line.So,here goes-I bought an earlier model too,probably 68',which was MUCH worse than the 71'style.Untunable and very poor chrome quality.And the 71'drum is presently on my practice set.I tweak it once or twice a week,and it plays OK-The best of these three,believe it or not,is a circa 75' STENCIL-the 5 line-that came with my Royce "church"set.Good chrome,tunable,"clanky".I'm going to buy 2.3mm rims for that drum,because I'm sure it will be an excellent all-arounder with that improvement.

If there are bumps protruding above the bead line,I'd file them down carefully to match the rest of the contour.

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That's such a bummer to hear man, I 'm sorry. I check my Pearl 69 Steel Challenger and the inner shell is smooth and the weld is uniform. This drum here sounds great. I recently recorded a song for a Japan relief benefit album with this very drum and it sounds just great on the track. One thing I did was put modern Yamaha die cast hoops - that really tightened up/unified the sound. (hoops in photo were the originals)

[IMG]http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87/Osakabop/PearlChallengersnare.jpg[/IMG]

For info. & live schedule:
www.EricWiegmanndrums.com
*Odery Drums Japan endorser/ representative
*Japan Distributor of Vruk DrumMaster pedals
*D'Addario Japan Evans/Promark/Puresound
*Amedia Cymbals Japan

It's the journey not the destination.
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From teverson-sr

I just did the same thing-bought that style drum,except with the next generation "Diamond"lugs.Same crappy weld line,and mine has corrosion right thru to the base metal along the snare head line.So,here goes-I bought an earlier model too,probably 68',which was MUCH worse than the 71'style.Untunable and very poor chrome quality.And the 71'drum is presently on my practice set.I tweak it once or twice a week,and it plays OK-The best of these three,believe it or not,is a circa 75' STENCIL-the 5 line-that came with my Royce "church"set.Good chrome,tunable,"clanky".I'm going to buy 2.3mm rims for that drum,because I'm sure it will be an excellent all-arounder with that improvement.If there are bumps protruding above the bead line,I'd file them down carefully to match the rest of the contour.

Tom, that is the exact cure for that problem, the file and then some fine sandpaper. As for the new hoops, give our buddy Matt your biz, if you don't mind. You will be amazed at his speed and desire to be the best retailer you can find, bar none! Customer service is one the first things I take into consideration when looking for new sellers, and this guys' customer comments are something to behold, for a retail web-store. You just can't get better service, from anyone of the "drum guys"...He is #1 in my book, and he is relatively close to you, geographically speaking, in WV. This is the standard triple flange...

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Thanks for the comments, er, condolences. O-bop, I have another Pearl snare, a early-mid 70s COS with the Gladstone style strainer. It sounds awesome, it's actually my go-to snare at home, but I dont wanna gig with it because I dont want the tip of the the throw arm to bust off like I have seen on so many of these things. I guess I could invest in a case? Nah...

As for trying to repair the snare in question, I really dont see it happening. I probably know just enough to make a bad situation worse. It's actually kind of funny, when I got the snare, all rusted and with old heads, it sounded better than it does now. This has been a disheartening experience, but I guess the point of this thread is that there really were some dog drums made and shipped out from the factories. Or, maybe this was a 'learning curve' snare, one of the lower steps in the upward direction of quality for Pearl products. Hmm, I of like the sound of that - "This is my 1969 Pearl Learning Curve COS snare..." Yeah, that's the ticket!

(Just for the halibut, here's a pic of my early-mid 70s Pearl COS)

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Nice! I like those 70's steel shells alot - I have one too (see pic) I like to use die cast hoops for all those Pearl steel shells- try it out , I think you might dig the improvement it makes to them.[IMG]http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87/Osakabop/P1010004-9.jpg[/IMG]

For info. & live schedule:
www.EricWiegmanndrums.com
*Odery Drums Japan endorser/ representative
*Japan Distributor of Vruk DrumMaster pedals
*D'Addario Japan Evans/Promark/Puresound
*Amedia Cymbals Japan

It's the journey not the destination.
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Send it to me, I'll fix it for you. Just put it in a box and pay for the round trip ticket and it'll be good as new....or you could just donate it, I am about to start on another donor anyway.

"Ignorance may be overcome through education. Stupidity, however, is a lifelong endeavor." So, educate me, I don't likes bein' ignant...
"I enjoy restoring 60s Japanese "stencil" drums...I can actually afford them..."I rescue the worst of the old valueless drums for disadvantaged Children and gladly accept donations of parts, pieces and orphans, No cockroaches, please...
http://www.youtube.com/user/karstenboy
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Coffee...16613138379603
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