Yeah, those are really beautiful! And they are most certainly Ruby Strata! Lovely drums, man!

I love it when I'm right....especially when it comes to Ludwigs.....why was I doubted? WalkingLoLoLoLo

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Ha Ha! Yet another strata color question. And so eloquently & unequivocally solved with Mr Fishwaltz's "...color under the lug..." solution. Major Kudos to the common "Member" forum dude - with the wisdom of Solomon

I must admit that it was fun to watch this one, for a change. Also, nice to know that yet another Strata kit has raised the old color question. The daylight close-ups made the obvious difference, but the distant pics that were under scrutiny were tricky, showing how hard these can be to photograph. From those pics, Ruby or Bronze were my guesses.

O-Lugs and Ludwig-dude get the prize for following their experienced instincts and sticking to their conclusions.

In another thread, discussing the wrap and its colors, I posed the thought that the black & silvery swirl were the medium that the color was added to. That very first tom pic *seems* to illustrate why I put forward this thought on that thread or at least why it's not hard to draw that conclusion (whether it's correct or not).

Definitely the fade of the name color can really cause an ID question - as it seems the more faded the name color, the more pearl shows through - In this case with the ruby leaning toward pinks, copper, some reddish-brown, like on the kick. No doubt some of that really changes with the viewing angle.

From a distance hard to tell. And with so much silvery pearl showing through, it's no wonder that gutenberg matched them to the Golds in the catalog shot. I've seen that pic - to ID Golds it's of little to no help.

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Gold Strata is basically an orange-ish undertone, if I remember correctly. It's not like metallic gold. And you're right about the sample. That example of gold in the ID section could have been better! lol!

Agreed. From the small examples it's tough to get a full sense of things. But the pic of the Gold Strata set in the '68 catalog could easily lead someone to think that the faded Ruby kit here was gold - check out the '68 pic:

http://vintagedrumguide.com/images/ludwig_sets/standard/1968-8.jpg

Notice the "Gold Strata Illustrated" under the floor tom - the pic looks kinda redish - unless it was mislabled, but I doubt it.

No wonder there's confusion :confused:

And yeah, my 3 Gold Stratas drums have orange-ish bits - not metallic gold - I've often had people see them and say "Cool tiger stripe" as I once said myself. It's the orange/gold that brings that.

All I can say is DANG! That is a seriously nice looking kit. I love the Standards. These Strata finishes are great. They really "pop" when you see them in person. I have a theory on why they don't photograph well...

It was 1969...these were not built for well-lit professional stage work...they were for the lower priced drummer...most of those guys were playing in dark lit underground clubs to patrons with questionable hand-eye coordination...no photography allowed in the club. Just a thought.

With our eyes half closed anyway... Laughing H

Go here:

http://www.fishwaltz.com/lustnd.html

For some better pix of my Standards kit. Pages aren't done yet, but should be soon.

Gawd! Those Avocados are sweet! And it's cool to see a Standard kit WITH the pedals (even though I don't like to use them). Btw....I love those Atlas cymbal stands.

Thanks for the kind words, Lugs. Funny you mention the pedals and stands. When I bought the kit in '71, it came with the kick, high hat, snare and cymbal stands. The cymbal stands had never been used, and were still in the boxes. The address on the boxes showed it had been sold by a local music store, so I took the two Ludwig Standard cymbal stands and traded them in on the Atlas stands shown in the pix. I also didn't like the Ludwig Standard kick pedal or the high hat. I used a pre Ludwig Ghost and various hats. When I bought the kit back from the guy I sold them to in '75, I got: Atlas stands, Ludwig Standard snare stand, no name vintage snare stand (I used the one shown in the pix), Standard kick and high hat, Paiste 602 20 in ride, Zildjian A 18 in crash, two Zildjian K 14 in crash (high hat), Ghost kick pedal (still works great!). Aside from the bottom heads and rims missing, that was everything I sold him in '75. Amazing...