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1919-1922 LUDWIG & LUDWIG 5 x 14 6 LUG/FANCY SCROLL ENGRAVED DeLUXE STANDARD MODEL

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Hi,

Here’s another snare drum to enter into the collection. This one came from Ebay a few months ago. The seller was kind enough to end the auction early for me.

1919-1922 LUDWIG & LUDWIG 5 x 14 6 LUG/FANCY SCROLL ENGRAVED DeLUXE STANDARD MODEL

The Shell:

Most of the scroll engraved DeLuxes that I have seen and own from the 6 lug era (1919-1922) all have the simple scroll/wave engraving pattern. This shell has a much fancier scroll pattern that I have never seen before on a 6 lug DeLuxe although noted Black Beauty expert John Aldridge told me that he has seen another one like this. I do have two 8 lug scroll DeLuxes with the fancy scroll engraving but these are 1923 or later. See photos. I have also included a photo of a later (single-flanged rims and Artgold hardware) simple scroll 6 lug DeLuxe that is in my cleaning/restoration queue. The overall condition of the black nickel shell and the original factory lacquer clear coat is pretty good but the engraving on the majority of the panels of this drum have darkened over the years but not in a tarnished manner so I decided to just clean and polish the shell and leave it as is. The only other alternative would have been to send the shell to Adrian Kirchler of AK Drums, my gut said “keep this one rustic.” From what I have been told there were three L & L engravers during the DeLuxe/Black Beauty era so the question is: did one of these engravers get a special order to enhance the typical scroll/wave engraving on this drum or was there a fourth “scratcher” in their midst? Thanks to Bill Wanser for helping date this drum from 1919-1922. In 1923 L & L went to an 8 lug shell and single flanged rims on their Professional Models. The seller informed me that the original owner was a dentist in the Midwest named Dr. Donald R. Skillen. You can see where he had the drum personalized but unfortunately (or fortunately) the engraving except for the date is covered up by the top head. Still a nice artifact from the era.

The Hardware:

Bonus time...from the Ebay photos my hunch was correct, the hardware is gold plated. The single band rims are in round with a strong oval Ludwig & Ludwig stamp on the top rim. All of the hardware still had a good amount of gold plating so I just cleaned everything with some 3-In-One oil. As always the steel tension rods needed more attention so after cleaning them I gave them a few coats of clear lacquer to prevent any rust from occurring in the future. Someone added a metal “bar” covering two holes in the strainer gut piece and the snare cord was attached to this. I am guessing that the owner thought this was a better way to attach the snare cord. I also decided to leave it as is...another cool artifact that came with the drum.

Of-the-era top and bottom calf heads and James Snappi Snares rounded out this cleaning /restoration.

Enjoy!

Mike Curotto

Posted on 11 years ago
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Very cool Mike, Did this one have a heating element in it?

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 11 years ago
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From vintagemore2000

Very cool Mike, Did this one have a heating element in it?

Hi,

No heating element, this drum had no extra holes.

Mike Curotto

Posted on 11 years ago
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Congrats on another fine specimen to enter the Curotto collection...Was there much cleaning to do on this one, Mike?

These old drums just amaze me...

Cheers

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Posted on 11 years ago
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From grantro

Congrats on another fine specimen to enter the Curotto collection...Was there much cleaning to do on this one, Mike?These old drums just amaze me...Cheers

No too much cleaning, just the normal Simple Green/3-in-one oil but the tension rods needed a little more attention on the threads.

Mike Curotto

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Hey Mr C.

Well done buddy on another one to be Curottorised. Also congrats on your earlier christman present, that fabulous Leedy drum.

Your work is stupendous as always.

See you in Chicago in May.

Dave

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From diddle001

Hey Mr C.Well done buddy on another one to be Curottorised. Also congrats on your earlier christman present, that fabulous Leedy drum.Your work is stupendous as always.See you in Chicago in May.Dave

Hi Dave,

Thanks for looking...Looking forward to Chicago.

Mike Curotto

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Mike;

Another amazing find, save, restoration! Congratulations!

Craig

fishwaltz
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From Mike Curotto

Hi,No heating element, this drum had no extra holes.Mike Curotto

Mike sweet drum! I bought an 5"x14" 8-lugger/wave pattern, recently that had a heating element (lightbulb fixture) but it had no extra holes. They used extra long screws to mount the bulb fixture to the back-side of two lug holes! The drum also has 'Pat. Pending' on the strainer which I imagine makes it an early one. I set mine up to play; replaced clips, added a set of vintage Snappy Snares and it's a wonderful sounding drum.

Do you ever play any of the vintage drums you buy? If so, how do you set them up to sound more like modern snares? Just curious. Some guys collect and use some of the instruments they buy while others strictly collect and archive.

Again, thanks for sharing one of your finds. Always fascinating/fun stuff.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

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