Old 02-13-2015, 03:57 PM
#1
Gaskeg Gaskeg is offline
Contributing Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: New Hope, PA
Posts: 96
Default Seen these? Gretsch RB - Pin Holes in wrap near edge for each lug
Has anyone seen these little holes in the wrap of a Round Badge Gretsch kit bass drum before?
If so, any idea what they are for or from? Was this part of a drill press operation at the factory?

They are like large pinholes centered a half inch from the edge for each bass lug on this kit which is 22 x 12" not 14 so already a bit of a mystery.

Thoughts?
Old 02-13-2015, 05:25 PM
#2
vintagemore2000 vintagemore2000 is offline
Vintage Drum Guru
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 10,714
Default Re: Seen these? Gretsch RB - Pin Holes in wrap near edge for each lug
Post pics for the forum to see. I have both 50's and 60's round badge kits. I have no such holes as you have mentioned ?
__________________
Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Old 02-13-2015, 06:21 PM
#3
Gaskeg Gaskeg is offline
Contributing Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: New Hope, PA
Posts: 96
Default Re: Seen these? Gretsch RB - Pin Holes in wrap near edge for each lug
Photos didn't load earlier. Here are a couple
Exactly, I have about 5 Gretsch round badge at the house at this time and none have these but I recall a guy talking about something similar on a cocktail conversion project he did but not sure. This is definitely a Gretsch and part of a 22, 13, 14 kit.
Attached Thumbnails
Old 02-13-2015, 06:42 PM
#4
Gary N Gary N is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 429
Default Re: Seen these? Gretsch RB - Pin Holes in wrap near edge for each lug
This wasn't on a Gretsch but simliar to an unexplained pin hole in the pearl only. It was on the following Rogers in rare blue ripple beavertail snare drum. I first thought that it was the end of the roll and staple marks being at the last piece on the roll. But nope.

They weren't rolled first of all. Second they were consistent all around the drum. Under each lug and around the top and bottom edges only. None in the middle. Chalked it up to just a factory thing. It was very odd to see though and not able to explain it.
Attached Thumbnails
Old 02-13-2015, 06:50 PM
#5
vintagemore2000 vintagemore2000 is offline
Vintage Drum Guru
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 10,714
Default Re: Seen these? Gretsch RB - Pin Holes in wrap near edge for each lug
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaskeg View Post
Photos didn't load earlier. Here are a couple
Exactly, I have about 5 Gretsch round badge at the house at this time and none have these but I recall a guy talking about something similar on a cocktail conversion project he did but not sure.. This is definitely a Gretsch and part of a 22, 13, 14 kit.
Nope haven't seen that on any gretsch I've had at this time thus far.
__________________
Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Old 02-14-2015, 08:00 AM
#6
Rik_Everglade Rik_Everglade is offline
Vintage Drum Guru
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 522
Default Re: Seen these? Gretsch RB - Pin Holes in wrap near edge for each lug
My 50's 3 ply has those pinholes slightly less than 1/4" from the bearing edge and perfectly aligned with the lug holes. I always assumed that they were from an alignment jig that was set up to hold the drum during the drilling of lugs and mounts. If the drum had a tacked on head, then you will also see pinholes for the tacks, but those were more randomly distributed, a little larger, and further from the bearing edge. The non-gretsch blue ripple shell shown above looks to have random pinholes from some misfortunate handling.
Old 02-14-2015, 09:03 AM
#7
richm richm is offline
Advanced Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 294
Default Re: Seen these? Gretsch RB - Pin Holes in wrap near edge for each lug
Could these be holes for the Pratt muffle strip?
Old 02-14-2015, 09:06 AM
#8
richm richm is offline
Advanced Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 294
Default Re: Seen these? Gretsch RB - Pin Holes in wrap near edge for each lug
pic of a Gretsch muffler
Attached Thumbnails
Old 02-14-2015, 10:42 AM
#9
Rik_Everglade Rik_Everglade is offline
Vintage Drum Guru
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 522
Default Re: Seen these? Gretsch RB - Pin Holes in wrap near edge for each lug
Two Pratts on a single bass...Don't see too many like that. I have a bass shell that has holes for two Pratts on batter and res, but they are not on the same side, like on a tom, they are on alternate sides.
Anyway, no. These pinholes are not for the Pratt. The top photo shows a tom, and mine are also on 12" tom, 14" tom, and 18" bass.
I still think it is from some jig.
Old 02-14-2015, 10:54 AM
#10
leedybdp leedybdp is offline
Vintage Drum Guru
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,753
Default Re: Seen these? Gretsch RB - Pin Holes in wrap near edge for each lug
I'm wondering if those holes are intended to prevent buckling of the wrap. Maybe the factory was experimenting to find out if doing that--especilly under the lugs--could prevent buckling that was frequently accociated with some wraps like the ripples or pearls.
__________________
No matter how far you push the envelope, it is still stationery.
 

Tags
gretsch , round badge

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Collapse Forum Rules Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Search Options
Tag Search Advanced Search